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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg with gene and

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Chris assisted by gags Makai we're back

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at the power cast we have another

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special guest this week he will join us

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in the next segment in the meantime I

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thought perhaps unless my two can

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Patriots say no in which case I lose the

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vote doesn't matter that I hold the

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microphone controls in my hand very

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democratic here as they say talk about

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last week's show in relation to the fact

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that people always seem to have evidence

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but you never see much of it like for

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example we were talking about some

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videos that Peter Davenport of the

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national UFO Reporting Center said he

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had but they're not posted online

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because he feels they'll use too much

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bandwidth now I mentioned to him that I

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have the bandwidth I would host or

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mirror those videos if he wanted but I

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never got a response Chris what do you

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think I'm not quite sure what to make of

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that actually gene I you know I thought

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it was a very magnanimous thing for you

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to volunteer to to host the video and I

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don't see any reason why he wouldn't

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want to do that somebody on our forums

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posted some I don't know bit of hearsay

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that they thought that somehow Peter was

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tied in with the NSA I have a hard time

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believing that but it kind of makes you

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wonder why someone would pass up an

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opportunity like that after professed

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professing interest in having it on the

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air and in sort of lamenting the fact

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that it wasn't it doesn't make sense

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it almost harkens back to the Marlee

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Woods case from Ted Phillips and if you

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remember the last time he was on the

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show and he wants to come back again I

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told him that we'd have him back on in

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your future he said he was going to put

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all that stuff up on a new website so

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for a few weeks the website was in an

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early stage of development

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and that all stopped so we haven't seen

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any more information from Ted Phillips

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and once again I welcome his

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participation why that's the same

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problem now the other person who says he

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has evidence and we never really get to

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see it is of course your friend ray

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Stanford and you've got a chance to talk

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to him when you're in Washington DC for

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the citizen disclosure you spent two

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days with ran you begged me and it lead

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us through all his material I was

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absolutely GOG smack no uh actually gods

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you have my permission to smack me yes

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please just a man of white weight he is

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really on to something I saw some of the

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most amazing analytical process I've

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ever even heard of in ufology or in his

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words AAA ecology which is anomalous

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aerial objects his preferred term the

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problem with someone like Ray is that

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when you have such a intricate involve

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data to just put it up there for people

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to scratch their heads without context

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it just doesn't make sense that's why

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Ray is offered to show his data to

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anyone with a basic science background

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that's interested in seeing the real

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thing but you have to spend days

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literally days to understand what it is

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that he's doing and how he has come up

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what I considered to be replicated data

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he's able to show in frames of his films

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and in other films from other people and

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other photographs demonstrable

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repeatable and predictable ghost imaging

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which he thinks may be tied into some

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sort of time compression scenario that

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the technology that these pilots of

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these craft were using he showed me

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example after example of these bent wing

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Delta craft a mother ship type craft

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where these objects are docking

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underneath and ghost images of the

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objects that you can almost predict

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where they're going to be based on the

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analysis of a particular frame or

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photograph and one of the things that

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really totally amazed me was he uses it

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technique of false-color and bringing

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the signal out of the noise literally of

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these photographs a majority of them are

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actually analog photographs and not not

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digital of course is coming across on a

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digital screen but you know for someone

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like Ray to try to put this information

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up online without explaining what you're

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looking at with just it would be more

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confusing and do more harm than good

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he can't just write it up in a paper

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it's what he's doing right now and he's

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interested in in scientists and

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physicists and optical physicist getting

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involved in his analytical process he's

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already shown this data to some very

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high-powered individuals whose names

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would be recognized by many of the

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listeners here at the Peres cast you

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know the names then all I do I mean I've

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seen I've seen the emails one physicist

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called his work magnificent and claimed

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that Ray had given him just enough of a

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hint to help him tackle a major problem

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that he'd been dealing with and thanked

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Ray for that that wonderful little

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nugget that he needed to break through

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on some of his own research so you know

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ray is the real deal I don't care what

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anybody says I have seen it I do have a

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basic background in science I'm able to

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follow a line of analytical logic I was

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absolutely blown away by what I saw you

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know it would be worthwhile for you

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maybe Chris to write something up for

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the forum's more extensive about this at

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least enough to give people an idea that

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something really exists and it's

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available for people to see and I think

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one of the concerns I have of course is

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that Ray Stanford is not the youngest

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guy in the planet and we'd like to see

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him complete his work before he leaves

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this planet does he have any contingency

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plans for that you know what happens if

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he's that's a touchy subject ray almost

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ago just before I really met him he does

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have he does have a degraded heart

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because of a misdiagnosis of a heart

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attack that he had this is something

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that I worry about what I was wanting to

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do was try to get Ray's permission to

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film his entire present

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tation to me I was there with a ton ton

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of tape and I was ready to do the whole

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thing and he said no he's not ready yet

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so you know I'm trying my best for

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everybody's sake and including moving

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the field forward and you know he does

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realize that time is that clock is

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ticking god yeah well I I trust Chris if

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Chris is seeing you know that he's seen

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this and you know he stated Ray's

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intentions then I got to believe them

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but obviously Chris Musa and I knew that

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isn't gonna cut it

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with some people and you know me

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would like to I would like to see the

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stuff and I suppose you could you know

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looking at Stanford he has this yes he's

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very he's got the Science Park and he's

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really worked at this for a long time

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but I'm just wondering well you know

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nades or Bob Bigelow and that the black

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Ned's have the exact same argument that

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the reason why they don't wish to

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disclose data straight away and I don't

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really know Ted Phillips his reluctance

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UFO interest person it just seems like

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anyone who has the good stuff has their

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own reasons for not wanting to share it

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and in a way I can kind of understand

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you could make analogies with other

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ventures in life where you are working

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hard to do something and you know the

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public at large or a certain section of

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them would be very interested but you

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have your own reasons for for not

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publishing or whatever straight away I

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can totally understand that like say for

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instance you you could maybe are making

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what you think is the greatest pop song

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ever and you let that slip to a few

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friends or into music and they're saying

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you think well you know maybe Mike's

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someone might steal

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idea or you just just for purely

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artistic reasons you don't want it until

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I don't want it released until it's

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ready most writers most authors artists

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of any kind they don't like seeing

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people you wouldn't

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Sistine Chapel halfway through so I do

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understand that argument it's just

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really frustrating being the one of the

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guys who can't get a hands on us us for

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Peter Davenport I cannot understand at

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all

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that video matter of the site or

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whatever it takes

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coming up next we'll have Robert

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Hastings he's author of UFOs and nukes

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and he was not at the Citizen hearing on

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disclosure and we'll find out why and

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Robert Hastings he's author of a book

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called UFOs and nukes and it's what the

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name implies about UFOs seen in and

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around nuclear weapons installations and

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sometimes the mischief they caused now

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Robert some of the people that you were

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brought to our attention with regard to

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UFOs and nukes appeared over at the

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Citizen hearing on disclosure but you

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weren't there why I have a problem with

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the way Steve Bassett approaches the

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presentation of UFO related data in a

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public venue the witnesses you just

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mentioned the former Air Force missile

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ears three of whom came to me over the

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last three or four years and provided

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their stories to me before anyone else

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as well as Bob Salas who co-hosted my

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UFOs and new press conference all of

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those people are obviously quite

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credible there is documentation backing

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up a UFO presence at nuclear weapons

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sites going back to the 1940s so I don't

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have a problem with that however because

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mr. Bassett refuses to vet his witnesses

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something he seems to be quite adamant

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about I recently listened to a March

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first 2009 interview you and David B

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Edna did with him which I think he

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should link for your viewers your

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listeners rather I think it's quite

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clear that he thinks the end justifies

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the means and he can do anything he

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needs to or wants to when presenting

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this information consequently some of

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the witnesses at the Citizen hearing in

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my view are far less incredible these

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are people who I've tangled with

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publicly and privately over the last 25

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years and I'm about to post an article

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at my website called citizen disclosure

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and remarkable revelations undercut by

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damaging disinformation it will be up at

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my website on the articles page by the

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time this program airs so in short I

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think it's problematic for mr. Bostic to

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mingle and mix credible data with quite

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obviously BS in my opinion

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disinformation presented by what I

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consider to be the more gullible fringe

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of ufology therefore I did not want to

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participate I am gratified I'm thankful

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that the media and the public responded

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quite favorably the Congress persons who

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heard the testimony to what these X

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missile ears these airforce missile

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launch officers and missile guard had to

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say but again I am happy that that was

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the outcome but I wasn't prepared to be

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involved at the outset you know well I

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must say having seen the entire thing

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because I was helping videotape and

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stream it the absolute low point there

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were a number of them but the absolute

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low point was the Honorable Paul Hellyer

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summing up the entire proceedings on the

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last day by quoting ET verbatim to

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alleged abductee Jim sparks I mean I was

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trying to tickle my nose so I could do a

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I was just really really not happy

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hearing this very naive just true

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believer believe anything that you read

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or told and then to have the whole thing

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summed up with I think even a

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questionable et dialogue would be

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actually being way too kind to me it was

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just

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it really threw a pall over the whole

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thing and there were quite a number of

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people in the audience I could tell that

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we're just shaking their heads going oh

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you know you spend five days admittedly

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there were some some duds in there as

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you pointed out who I'm happy to name

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but Ted to have the whole thing just it

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just was like a bucket of ice water

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thrown over the whole thing and in many

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people's and I just oh it just drove me

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up the wall that's my point precisely

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and as long as best it's running the

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show it is going to be a circus rather

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than something more resembling a serious

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disclosure type event

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unfortunately he seems to be oblivious

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to the fact that he shoots himself in

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the foot on a regular basis and you know

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shoots everybody else in the foot

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associated with in in my view more often

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than not I had particular problems with

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the witnesses who were describing quote

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information from the so-called mj-12

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documents which are overwhelmingly

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conclusively proved to be fraudulent the

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thrust of my new article is that

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researchers including myself 25 years

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ago put the last nail in that coffin

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mj-12 is a hoax whether it was a

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disinformation scheme or Bill Moore and

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COO making money trying to make money

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remains to be seen remains to be

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determined but the overwhelming forensic

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and anecdotal evidence confirms that

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mj-12 is a hoax and yet you have persons

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like Linda Howe and Richard Dolan and

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others who still caught this out as some

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sort of smoking gun evidence that the

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Roswell incident was real now I think

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Roswell was real I think if you look at

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the statements by retired Air Force

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general Arthur e exon who said that this

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was a recovery of a craft from space and

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other credible witnesses that have been

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brought forth I think quite clearly

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Roswell was a an extraordinary event

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however that does not excuse the fact

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that for decades now for those in the

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know which is very distressing Lee a

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small number of people

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the mj-12 papers are totally fraudulent

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and to mix that sort of nonsense with

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for example the credit

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credible testimony presented by these ex

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Air Force mission leaders the nuclear

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missile officers is inexcusable in my

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view it just muddies the water as you

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said you know statements by others just

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bring the whole thing down this could

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have been if as it had been less

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arrogant about his need to vet witnesses

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and the very real need to do that by

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anyone present this information publicly

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he would have had a much more strong

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perhaps memorable event but I think as

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you said people who look at this after

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the fact on the web at once that website

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or another and read about a summary of

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some of the testimony you know they're

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going to throw the baby out with the

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basketball that bathwater they're going

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to read about the missile you're saying

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UFOs are shutting down nuclear weapons

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then they're going to read about mental

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telepathy between an NGO twelve witness

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and an alien captured as presented by

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Laval you know and the whole thing just

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stinks as a consequence I was about to

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say when you were uh Turing they're

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throwing out the baby with the bathwater

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I was going to say throwing out the

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Basset with the bathwater gods you had a

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comment yes Robert um you know I'm

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pleased to hear that you you know the

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decisions why you two wanted to stay

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away from the citizens hearing my point

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is quite simply aren't all UFO

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conferences and events or you know of

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this kind or any kind

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they're always marred by non-credible

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speakers the boo boo crowd you know the

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Pleiadian believers and whatever and my

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my questions took point exposes do do do

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you do people do we just stay away

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totally because of that the non credible

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element or do we have to appear to make

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sure that the the site of the credible

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researcher is shown and that the public

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don't only get to see the non credible

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ones well your point is absolutely

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correct I think in the 31 years that

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I've been on the college lecture circuit

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where I am the only speaker during that

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same period I've spoken at precisely

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through

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conferences simply because I did not

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want my research to be associated with

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other claims that I consider it less

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than credible but you're correct this

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sort of phenomenon both the good and the

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bad the credible and ridiculous are all

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mixed up into this this mess called

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ufology we have to do the break now then

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we'll continue with that Robert okay we

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have Robert Hastings joining Jean and

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gonna hear stuff here that you probably

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won't hear anywhere else hear that

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George snoring with Gene and Kris

616
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assisted by gags Makai we have Robert

617
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Hastings author of UFOs and nukes right

618
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now we're talking about influenced by

619
00:27:29,180 --> 00:27:26,700
the Citizen hearing on disclosure the

620
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fact that there are so many ways of

621
00:27:34,970 --> 00:27:31,740
polluting the UFO field and I wonder

622
00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:34,980
here doesn't the fact that so many good

623
00:27:41,149 --> 00:27:37,710
people good honest people with lots of

624
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:41,159
information up here at events we're less

625
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acceptable people are allowed to show up

626
00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:46,470
doesn't that just advance the agenda of

627
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:47,940
someone like a Stephen Bassett

628
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I mean if Stanton Friedman and Kevin

629
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Randall and all the rest of the people

630
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said no we're not doing it unless you

631
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exclude these people if that doesn't

632
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happen it's just going to go on well

633
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again I'm an outsider looking in I don't

634
00:28:06,169 --> 00:28:03,390
think I can influence the course of

635
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events and so I'm not going to even try

636
00:28:11,270 --> 00:28:08,669
you mentioned Stanton Friedman Stan

637
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Friedman has done excellent work in in

638
00:28:15,380 --> 00:28:13,620
the field of ufology unfortunately he's

639
00:28:18,049 --> 00:28:15,390
one of those people who has been duped

640
00:28:20,690 --> 00:28:18,059
in my view by the perpetrators of the

641
00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:20,700
mj-12 hoax he's never going to admit

642
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:22,590
that I talked to him at length one on

643
00:28:28,130 --> 00:28:25,530
one at a conference in Brazil in 2009

644
00:28:30,140 --> 00:28:28,140
and he may have a different memory of it

645
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:30,150
but my memory was he conceded to me

646
00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:32,220
personally that there's really no

647
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:34,740
credible evidence there's no verifiable

648
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way of documenting any of these

649
00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:38,760
so-called mj-12 papers he can advance

650
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:40,620
others can advance arguments for their

651
00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:41,610
legitimacy but

652
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:43,590
they all can be explained away with

653
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:45,840
alternate scenarios that point toward a

654
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:47,970
disinformation scheme or just an

655
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:50,490
outright hoax so I don't think he'll

656
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ever have that conversation publicly he

657
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won't acknowledge that which is this

658
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prerogative

659
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Kevin Randall you know as one of the

660
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chief people who helped debunk mj-12 in

661
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,040
the article that I'm posting at my

662
00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:04,320
website again it should be up by the

663
00:29:08,510 --> 00:29:07,080
time this interview airs I mentioned

664
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Randall by name and others Barry

665
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:11,160
Greenwood the late Bob Todd Brad sparks

666
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and myself people who found just

667
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irrefutable smoking gun evidence of the

668
00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:18,990
fraudulent nature of the mj-12 papers

669
00:29:25,159 --> 00:29:21,510
again there are people like Linda Howe

670
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who unfortunately was the first person

671
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to widely disseminate this crap she was

672
00:29:34,370 --> 00:29:31,500
so duped by Richard Doty and a man named

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Bob Collins AF OSI Air Force Office of

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Special Investigations at Kirtland Air

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Force Base

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she has never you know come to the

677
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surface since then she's just gone

678
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further and further down the slippery

679
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slippery slope believing virtually

680
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everything she's told by anyone who

681
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earns the word mj-12

682
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and says that he has a knowledge of it

683
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you know she's just a sucker for that

684
00:29:56,750 --> 00:29:55,110
and it's unfortunate now when you talk

685
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about people like Robert Collins and

686
00:30:01,789 --> 00:29:59,490
also Richard Doty they were genuinely in

687
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the military and you wonder why their

688
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superiors haven't simply told them to

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stop this nonsense well on the other

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hand it can be argued that the way they

691
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were doing was on under orders you know

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I'm of the opinion that this was a

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disinformation be not a hoax and

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therefore in fact Richard Doty as

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recently as 2009 I believe sent we had a

696
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heated email exchange and he said to me

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everything I did I did under orders and

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I think he's telling the truth in my

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00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:29,130
view there is substantial evidence

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throughout the years of disinformation

701
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:34,049
all attempts to try to minimize the

702
00:30:38,930 --> 00:30:35,880
public's knowledge of the government's

703
00:30:41,659 --> 00:30:38,940
interest in UFOs sleight of hand as it

704
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were the classic case being the closure

705
00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:44,100
project Bluebook with great fanfare the

706
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,860
public was told a the Air Force after 22

707
00:30:50,570 --> 00:30:48,960
years found no evidence UFOs exist and

708
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it's getting out of the UFO

709
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investigations business the media

710
00:30:58,010 --> 00:30:55,170
product the public some number of

711
00:30:59,930 --> 00:30:58,020
the public body years later through the

712
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:59,940
Freedom of Information Act documents

713
00:31:02,510 --> 00:31:00,480
surfaced

714
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:02,520
confirming there's one called the

715
00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:05,600
bolander memo in particular saying that

716
00:31:10,550 --> 00:31:08,550
national security-related UFO incidents

717
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,560
were never directed to Bluebook or at

718
00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:12,480
least not systematically directed a blue

719
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:14,550
book and that other groups within the US

720
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:16,880
military were set up to investigate

721
00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:20,010
national security related cases so the

722
00:31:23,510 --> 00:31:22,140
public was told look over here not over

723
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:23,520
there look over at the closure of

724
00:31:26,570 --> 00:31:25,290
Project Blue Book meanwhile behind the

725
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:26,580
scenes out of public view

726
00:31:31,820 --> 00:31:29,010
we're continuing our investigations of

727
00:31:33,890 --> 00:31:31,830
UFO incursions at missile sites for

728
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:33,900
example the Office of Special

729
00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:36,210
Investigations which a number of my ex

730
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:38,940
missileer sources refer to say they were

731
00:31:44,090 --> 00:31:41,310
interviewed or debriefed by agents from

732
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:44,100
that office now interesting that you

733
00:31:48,770 --> 00:31:46,770
send a link to me Robert before we did

734
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:48,780
this show and the reason I bring it up

735
00:31:53,690 --> 00:31:51,600
is because we now have all these stories

736
00:31:55,940 --> 00:31:53,700
about government's gone amuck about the

737
00:31:58,490 --> 00:31:55,950
US government about the IRS scandal

738
00:32:00,770 --> 00:31:58,500
so-called scandal going after

739
00:32:04,610 --> 00:32:00,780
conservative political action groups who

740
00:32:07,970 --> 00:32:04,620
want to be given status as nonprofits

741
00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:07,980
about the issue with regard to sending

742
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:11,100
subpoena out secretly to retrieve

743
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:14,370
telephone logs from the AP because of a

744
00:32:18,590 --> 00:32:16,320
possible security leak all this stuff

745
00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:18,600
about government gone amok then you send

746
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:21,720
me a story here called how UFO believers

747
00:32:25,910 --> 00:32:24,240
make our government more transparent and

748
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:25,920
almost sounds like it argues against

749
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:27,930
that what's this article about Robert

750
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:30,720
well I've only read it once and then I

751
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:34,050
set it out it's less than 12 hours old

752
00:32:38,780 --> 00:32:37,050
at this point I don't even remember the

753
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:38,790
name of the reporter who wrote it but

754
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:41,970
basically it was sort of a superficial

755
00:32:48,370 --> 00:32:45,510
and not very entirely accurate at least

756
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:48,380
a summary of Freedom of Information

757
00:32:54,590 --> 00:32:52,770
requests relating to UFO documents the

758
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:54,600
point the reporter was trying to make

759
00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:56,490
was that even though it's considered a

760
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:59,010
taboo subject or off-the-wall subject

761
00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:01,440
the fact that UFO researchers have

762
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:03,150
spearheaded the release of government

763
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:05,850
documents on UFOs has allowed other

764
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:08,730
avenues other documents on other topic

765
00:33:13,580 --> 00:33:10,890
so their subject matter to be released

766
00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:13,590
as a result of these ongoing efforts by

767
00:33:19,789 --> 00:33:16,260
UFO researchers what the article doesn't

768
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:19,799
say is that again we're into this slide

769
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:22,290
of hand mode where it's been established

770
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:26,690
that the Air Force let's say and the CIA

771
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:29,250
selectively released the documents they

772
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:30,960
want to release The Smoking Gun

773
00:33:34,610 --> 00:33:32,370
documents the ones that are

774
00:33:36,409 --> 00:33:34,620
incriminating the ones that don't parrot

775
00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:36,419
the official line that the government is

776
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:38,190
not interested in UFOs never see the

777
00:33:44,270 --> 00:33:40,049
light of day they are leaked from time

778
00:33:46,580 --> 00:33:44,280
to time or peripherally some reference

779
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:46,590
to the smoking gun documents appear in

780
00:33:53,770 --> 00:33:49,290
another document that is released to

781
00:33:57,140 --> 00:33:53,780
cite some examples in the late 70s

782
00:33:59,720 --> 00:33:57,150
various researchers filed suit with the

783
00:34:01,370 --> 00:33:59,730
CIA for his release of UFO documents

784
00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:01,380
there were about a thousand pages

785
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:03,720
ultimately released at a classification

786
00:34:09,710 --> 00:34:06,570
level of secret or lower years later

787
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:09,720
Stanton Friedman accessed an NSA

788
00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:12,210
National Security document through the

789
00:34:17,810 --> 00:34:14,940
FOI a that referenced a top-secret or a

790
00:34:19,970 --> 00:34:17,820
number of top-secret CIA UFO documents

791
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:19,980
that the agency had shared with NSA and

792
00:34:25,970 --> 00:34:23,490
so quite clearly CIA had top-secret

793
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:25,980
documents on UFOs that they did not hint

794
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:28,320
existed they did not certainly release

795
00:34:33,980 --> 00:34:30,960
to these researchers in the 70s when

796
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:33,990
Friedman filed fo IAS to get those top

797
00:34:39,379 --> 00:34:37,050
secret CIA UFO documents they were

798
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:39,389
basically all redacted you know they

799
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:41,010
were virtually worthless because all the

800
00:34:45,830 --> 00:34:43,770
material had been censored so that's the

801
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:45,840
kind of sleight of hand game that the

802
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:47,820
reporter writing this article either was

803
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:49,770
unaware of or chose not to mention in

804
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:52,050
her article I would assume in most cases

805
00:34:55,700 --> 00:34:53,520
when you have articles like this the

806
00:34:57,620 --> 00:34:55,710
person who wrote it really doesn't know

807
00:35:00,560 --> 00:34:57,630
anything more than they learn with very

808
00:35:01,430 --> 00:35:00,570
brief research and that's it that's

809
00:35:03,410 --> 00:35:01,440
exactly it

810
00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:03,420
you know they have they had deadlines

811
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:05,640
they have X amount of hours to do a

812
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:07,410
given story then it's on to the next

813
00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:10,320
story so whether exceptions at the

814
00:35:15,260 --> 00:35:12,780
average reporter even for the premier

815
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:15,270
news organization the u.s. really don't

816
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:16,650
have a good sense of the things that

817
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:18,480
we're discussing here today we

818
00:35:23,210 --> 00:35:20,490
don't have much investigative journalism

819
00:35:26,690 --> 00:35:23,220
either I mean I read stories here where

820
00:35:28,490 --> 00:35:26,700
people will write up a report and there

821
00:35:30,140 --> 00:35:28,500
are critical points that should be

822
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:30,150
mentioned in reference and point of

823
00:35:34,849 --> 00:35:32,970
reference to that story information that

824
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:34,859
we used to get from the morgue in a

825
00:35:38,690 --> 00:35:36,810
newspaper and they don't look it up

826
00:35:40,430 --> 00:35:38,700
online or in their own newspapers

827
00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:40,440
records that either contradict what

828
00:35:43,940 --> 00:35:42,390
they're saying or provide a proper

829
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:43,950
reference there's no frame of reference

830
00:35:49,940 --> 00:35:47,250
everything exists as a vacuum so that

831
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:49,950
story of a vacuum part of the problem is

832
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:52,050
the average person may be interested in

833
00:35:56,330 --> 00:35:53,850
UFOs but they've got their day-to-day

834
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:56,340
concerns you know to feed their family

835
00:36:00,590 --> 00:35:58,650
and so on and so forth and the amount

836
00:36:03,650 --> 00:36:00,600
amount of time they have to devote to

837
00:36:06,050 --> 00:36:03,660
research in this topic is minimal and

838
00:36:08,260 --> 00:36:06,060
also with the internet you now have an

839
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:08,270
overwhelming lot of information that's

840
00:36:13,130 --> 00:36:11,130
accessible at your fingertips but you

841
00:36:14,660 --> 00:36:13,140
know systematically sorting through it

842
00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:14,670
and separating the wheat from the chaff

843
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:16,710
a good articles from the nonsense

844
00:36:21,859 --> 00:36:20,160
there's a monumental task so that that

845
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:21,869
is not helpful as well

846
00:36:26,270 --> 00:36:24,150
we have Robert Hastings his book is

847
00:36:28,970 --> 00:36:26,280
called UFOs and nukes subtitled

848
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,980
extraordinary encounters at nuclear

849
00:36:33,170 --> 00:36:30,720
weapons sites and we'll get into his

850
00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:33,180
latest information and your questions

851
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:35,220
power cast listeners in just a moment

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00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:37,650
God's Makai joins our panel with gene

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and Chris you're in the para guest

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are you tired of searching for great

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the government's Department of Homeland

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Security is buying up loads of ammo at

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the same time they're restricting

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civilians rights to own and purchase

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firearms can you put two and two

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together

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infidel body armor can stop every round

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including hollow points in 308 sniper

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rounds is reasonably priced and fully

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legal but for how long

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go to infidel body armor comm spelled

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INF i de l body armor comm infidel body

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armor just won't quit we the people grow

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strips and fibers to protect from

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counterfeit than carding to a private

890
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bank having it led back at interest

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forcing taxes to surface debt this

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capitalism or was Jefferson correct when

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stating a central bank issuing the

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public currency is a greater menace to

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the liberties of the people than a

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standing army hi Ted Anderson I'm

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to do a lot of research into why even if

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I had a pretty good-sized meal that was

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still starving and my research led me to

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a well-known fact that most of the soils

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of information and you are listening to

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the podcast with GOx Makai on the panel

955
00:41:16,210 --> 00:41:14,150
and Jean and Chris on the power cast we

956
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:16,220
welcome back Robert Hastings it's been

957
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:17,450
roughly two years since his last

958
00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:19,850
appearance on the power cast and I think

959
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:21,680
for people who haven't heard him before

960
00:41:26,110 --> 00:41:24,650
let's quickly recap the core of your

961
00:41:28,420 --> 00:41:26,120
interest in looking some of the latest

962
00:41:32,070 --> 00:41:28,430
information here so you focused

963
00:41:35,020 --> 00:41:32,080
primarily on UFOs seen in and around

964
00:41:35,470 --> 00:41:35,030
nuclear weapons installations that's

965
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:35,480
correct

966
00:41:43,150 --> 00:41:39,610
yes my father was career airforce and in

967
00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:43,160
1966-67 he was stationed at Malmstrom

968
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:45,830
Air Force Base Montana we lived there

969
00:41:50,860 --> 00:41:48,050
for less than a year however it just

970
00:41:53,230 --> 00:41:50,870
coincidentally coincided with a period

971
00:41:56,020 --> 00:41:53,240
of high UFO activity out at the nuclear

972
00:41:58,180 --> 00:41:56,030
weapons sites my dad got wind of it

973
00:42:01,060 --> 00:41:58,190
through the rumor mill he worked at a

974
00:42:03,070 --> 00:42:01,070
place called the sage building it housed

975
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:03,080
among other things the world's most

976
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:06,890
advanced computer assisted radar system

977
00:42:11,230 --> 00:42:09,050
at that time in the late 60s there were

978
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:11,240
reports by the military controllers of

979
00:42:15,339 --> 00:42:12,170
UFOs

980
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:15,349
around the missile sites I independently

981
00:42:21,010 --> 00:42:18,710
as a junior in high school 16 17 years

982
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:21,020
old worked three nights a week at the

983
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:23,210
base air traffic control tower after

984
00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:24,890
several months of having worked there I

985
00:42:29,530 --> 00:42:26,569
meeting the acquaintance of one of the

986
00:42:31,210 --> 00:42:29,540
FAA controllers and he was quite

987
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:31,220
generous with his time in terms of

988
00:42:35,319 --> 00:42:33,200
explaining to me how radar work and so

989
00:42:37,150 --> 00:42:35,329
on one night I walked through what's

990
00:42:39,730 --> 00:42:37,160
called rap bound radar approach in

991
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:39,740
control dark room several radar screens

992
00:42:44,319 --> 00:42:41,450
with guys hunched over him in the dark

993
00:42:46,780 --> 00:42:44,329
walk three pushing a broom emptying

994
00:42:48,789 --> 00:42:46,790
trash can and the same gentleman kind of

995
00:42:50,940 --> 00:42:48,799
motioned me over to a scope and so we're

996
00:42:53,710 --> 00:42:50,950
tracking UFOs or unknowns or

997
00:42:56,260 --> 00:42:53,720
unidentified target's whatever term he

998
00:42:58,510 --> 00:42:56,270
used it was clear to me that he was

999
00:43:00,750 --> 00:42:58,520
talking about UFOs so I got all excited

1000
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:00,760
and started peppering him with questions

1001
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:03,049
any kind of like the look on his face

1002
00:43:07,180 --> 00:43:05,930
was like oh crap I've said too much so

1003
00:43:08,890 --> 00:43:07,190
he told me to come back later

1004
00:43:11,620 --> 00:43:08,900
and when I came back later and cleaned

1005
00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:11,630
up I reached the topic again he didn't

1006
00:43:14,799 --> 00:43:13,369
want to talk about it the next time I

1007
00:43:16,510 --> 00:43:14,809
was there about three days later a

1008
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:16,520
common in the break room and I asked him

1009
00:43:19,210 --> 00:43:17,599
um you know what was that the other

1010
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:19,220
night he didn't want to talk about so I

1011
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:22,250
let it go but it made a memorable

1012
00:43:28,210 --> 00:43:25,089
impression on me and by the time I

1013
00:43:30,579 --> 00:43:28,220
graduated from college in 72 and did a

1014
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:30,589
year of graduate school in 73 I started

1015
00:43:35,859 --> 00:43:33,290
looking for material on nuclear

1016
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:35,869
weapons-related UFO activity and lo and

1017
00:43:43,210 --> 00:43:39,770
behold I found an article in the

1018
00:43:45,819 --> 00:43:43,220
December 1966 issue of Saturday Evening

1019
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:45,829
Post written by dr. J Allen Hynek who

1020
00:43:51,069 --> 00:43:47,930
was the Bluebook project advisor

1021
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:51,079
civilian advisor an astronomer in which

1022
00:43:56,620 --> 00:43:54,290
he was basically discussing UFO activity

1023
00:44:00,099 --> 00:43:56,630
at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota

1024
00:44:02,109 --> 00:44:00,109
in August of 66 where UFOs had come in

1025
00:44:04,329 --> 00:44:02,119
and hovered around those news and when I

1026
00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:04,339
saw that I was off on running it dawn on

1027
00:44:10,569 --> 00:44:07,220
me that what I had heard from my dad at

1028
00:44:13,230 --> 00:44:10,579
Malmstrom back in 67 had a basis you

1029
00:44:16,299 --> 00:44:13,240
know in fact and shortly thereafter

1030
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:16,309
researcher Raymond Fowler who was a

1031
00:44:20,620 --> 00:44:18,530
Minuteman contract and a manned missile

1032
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:20,630
system contractor for Sylvania

1033
00:44:26,089 --> 00:44:23,690
corporation published a book called UFOs

1034
00:44:28,339 --> 00:44:26,099
and her planetary visitors in it

1035
00:44:32,359 --> 00:44:28,349
he reference UFO activity at Malmstrom

1036
00:44:35,150 --> 00:44:32,369
in 66 and 67 again corroborating what

1037
00:44:39,259 --> 00:44:35,160
what I had been told and what my father

1038
00:44:42,049 --> 00:44:39,269
had heard so that's what began my

1039
00:44:45,229 --> 00:44:42,059
interest in this topic I at this point

1040
00:44:46,940 --> 00:44:45,239
have interviewed over 140 US military

1041
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:46,950
veterans who were involved in incidents

1042
00:44:53,180 --> 00:44:51,119
from the late 40s to last fall who are

1043
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:53,190
involved in incidents are aware of

1044
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:55,680
incidents involving UFO incursions at

1045
00:45:01,279 --> 00:44:58,249
missile sites weapons storage areas

1046
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:01,289
nuclear bomb test sites nuclear

1047
00:45:07,219 --> 00:45:03,839
laboratories such as Los Alamos and

1048
00:45:10,130 --> 00:45:07,229
Sandia so it's real it's important and

1049
00:45:14,089 --> 00:45:10,140
it's ongoing Coggs you want to put it in

1050
00:45:17,809 --> 00:45:14,099
a comment yeah Robert just a quick one

1051
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:17,819
here the interest shown by apparently

1052
00:45:24,259 --> 00:45:21,690
shown by UFOs in nuclear bases I wonder

1053
00:45:29,299 --> 00:45:24,269
have you ever heard during your research

1054
00:45:32,329 --> 00:45:29,309
of any hint or ever if the UFOs have

1055
00:45:37,219 --> 00:45:32,339
ever shown any interest in biological or

1056
00:45:40,819 --> 00:45:37,229
chemical weapons type places research

1057
00:45:42,469 --> 00:45:40,829
places and is it only ask that question

1058
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:42,479
from time to time I can't honestly

1059
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:44,729
address it knowledgeably it would

1060
00:45:49,459 --> 00:45:46,890
surprise me but I couldn't point to any

1061
00:45:52,489 --> 00:45:49,469
specific information credible verifiable

1062
00:45:54,109 --> 00:45:52,499
information that has got my way so you

1063
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:54,119
know you kotti one Robert I do have

1064
00:45:58,459 --> 00:45:56,249
another point but I'll continue please I

1065
00:46:01,039 --> 00:45:58,469
was just going to say to finish a

1066
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:01,049
thought when the Soviet Union collapsed

1067
00:46:06,349 --> 00:46:03,839
in 1991 there was a period in the early

1068
00:46:08,559 --> 00:46:06,359
90s where Western researchers and

1069
00:46:12,259 --> 00:46:08,569
journalists were able to access

1070
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:12,269
previously classified in fact still

1071
00:46:17,779 --> 00:46:15,569
classified KGB and Ministry of Defense

1072
00:46:21,289 --> 00:46:17,789
documents in particular journalists

1073
00:46:24,589 --> 00:46:21,299
George Knapp smuggle literally smuggled

1074
00:46:27,410 --> 00:46:24,599
some documents out of Russia in the

1075
00:46:30,140 --> 00:46:27,420
early 90s relating to UFO activity at

1076
00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:30,150
Soviet missile sites they were also

1077
00:46:35,630 --> 00:46:32,670
interviews conducted by Knapp and others

1078
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:35,640
with former Soviet military personnel

1079
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:38,160
alluding to these incidents so whoever

1080
00:46:42,859 --> 00:46:39,690
is in the

1081
00:46:45,710 --> 00:46:42,869
pose whatever their game plan is part of

1082
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:45,720
it involved tampering monitoring and

1083
00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:48,089
tampering with both American and Russian

1084
00:46:53,420 --> 00:46:51,630
nuclear weapons now what I always wonder

1085
00:46:56,059 --> 00:46:53,430
about when we talk about this issue

1086
00:46:58,670 --> 00:46:56,069
about tampering with our weapons that

1087
00:47:01,039 --> 00:46:58,680
seems to show either a hostile motive on

1088
00:47:05,089 --> 00:47:01,049
the part of whoever whatever is piloting

1089
00:47:08,329 --> 00:47:05,099
UFOs or some intend to kind of keep us

1090
00:47:10,370 --> 00:47:08,339
down prevent us from expanding our

1091
00:47:12,980 --> 00:47:10,380
nuclear weapons development I mean

1092
00:47:14,829 --> 00:47:12,990
what's the motive behind this I can

1093
00:47:18,049 --> 00:47:14,839
think of a third option you may have

1094
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:18,059
bullet benevolent intentions whereby an

1095
00:47:23,839 --> 00:47:21,030
advance rate is race is monitoring a

1096
00:47:25,460 --> 00:47:23,849
very primitive race us who now have for

1097
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:25,470
the first time in our history weapons

1098
00:47:30,170 --> 00:47:27,450
that can actually and our civilization

1099
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:30,180
if they're used in large numbers what I

1100
00:47:35,770 --> 00:47:32,730
tell my lecture audiences I've spoken at

1101
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:35,780
over 500 schools since 1981 is this

1102
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:39,089
based on the available data my opinion

1103
00:47:43,970 --> 00:47:41,730
is that whoever they are are wagging a

1104
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,980
finger at us and the Russians and the

1105
00:47:48,260 --> 00:47:46,079
other nuclear powers and attempting to

1106
00:47:50,660 --> 00:47:48,270
tell us that we're playing with fire so

1107
00:47:52,910 --> 00:47:50,670
I take a more positive look at the

1108
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:52,920
situation but I quickly found my lecture

1109
00:47:57,710 --> 00:47:55,410
audiences I don't have the inside story

1110
00:47:59,660 --> 00:47:57,720
on this no one does maybe the folks at

1111
00:48:01,640 --> 00:47:59,670
the Pentagon and the CIA and the Kremlin

1112
00:48:03,380 --> 00:48:01,650
don't even know so we have to look at

1113
00:48:05,029 --> 00:48:03,390
the whole range of options to account

1114
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:05,039
for what has been reported by these

1115
00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:07,650
ex-military people and if you look at

1116
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:10,200
the other end of the spectrum if indeed

1117
00:48:14,359 --> 00:48:12,089
these are extraterrestrial visitors

1118
00:48:16,609 --> 00:48:14,369
there could be ill intent toward

1119
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:16,619
humankind there may be designs our

1120
00:48:21,620 --> 00:48:19,410
planet they may intend some invasion at

1121
00:48:24,370 --> 00:48:21,630
some point in time and they simply don't

1122
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:24,380
want to inherit a radioactive husk

1123
00:48:30,109 --> 00:48:27,359
therefore they are attempting to as you

1124
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:30,119
said dissuade us or shut down our

1125
00:48:34,819 --> 00:48:32,880
ability to use nuclear weapons now I

1126
00:48:35,299 --> 00:48:34,829
personally do not believe that is the

1127
00:48:37,549 --> 00:48:35,309
case

1128
00:48:40,910 --> 00:48:37,559
I personally am inclined to think that

1129
00:48:42,769 --> 00:48:40,920
you have as I said an advanced race who

1130
00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:42,779
seemingly has our best interests at

1131
00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:45,089
heart and is just planning to step in on

1132
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:49,980
a limited on-again off-again basis you

1133
00:48:53,470 --> 00:48:52,710
know to keep us from making a fatal

1134
00:48:56,859 --> 00:48:53,480
mistake

1135
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:56,869
and launching a major nuclear war one

1136
00:49:00,940 --> 00:48:58,130
thing that I've often wondered about

1137
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:00,950
Robert and you know I recall reading

1138
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:03,050
your book but not seeing information

1139
00:49:09,099 --> 00:49:06,770
that that that verifies this but have

1140
00:49:12,099 --> 00:49:09,109
these objects ever showed up and

1141
00:49:14,530 --> 00:49:12,109
actually change telemetry data on the on

1142
00:49:18,730 --> 00:49:14,540
let's say a missile site change the

1143
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:18,740
actual of target let's say what I have

1144
00:49:25,329 --> 00:49:22,130
is second-hand information that target

1145
00:49:26,859 --> 00:49:25,339
tapes have been erased meaning that even

1146
00:49:29,980 --> 00:49:26,869
if a missile was launched it could not

1147
00:49:32,109 --> 00:49:29,990
have hit its designated target the

1148
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:32,119
person who told me that were not

1149
00:49:35,980 --> 00:49:33,680
directly involved in the missile

1150
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:35,990
maintenance or targeting groups who

1151
00:49:40,420 --> 00:49:37,970
would have discovered that if indeed it

1152
00:49:42,430 --> 00:49:40,430
did take place but they were missile

1153
00:49:45,010 --> 00:49:42,440
launch officers who heard through the

1154
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:45,020
grapevine within you know the missile

1155
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:47,570
ear group you have launch officers you

1156
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:49,250
have maintenance personnel and you're

1157
00:49:53,230 --> 00:49:51,410
targeting personnel and there is some

1158
00:49:55,420 --> 00:49:53,240
bleed over from group to group in terms

1159
00:49:58,270 --> 00:49:55,430
of what's being reported whether it's

1160
00:50:01,410 --> 00:49:58,280
officially or via the rumor mill and so

1161
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:01,420
I have heard on I think two occasions

1162
00:50:06,099 --> 00:50:04,400
indirect references to when the missile

1163
00:50:07,930 --> 00:50:06,109
targeting guys went and they found that

1164
00:50:11,319 --> 00:50:07,940
the targeting codes had been scrambled

1165
00:50:14,020 --> 00:50:11,329
what I have as firsthand testimony from

1166
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:14,030
a number of people at Malmstrom Minot

1167
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:16,400
Ellsworth Air Force Base EFI warning is

1168
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:20,000
that missiles dropped offline and when

1169
00:50:23,319 --> 00:50:21,530
they were inspected it was found that

1170
00:50:26,670 --> 00:50:23,329
their GNC the guidance and control

1171
00:50:28,990 --> 00:50:26,680
systems were scrambled in other words

1172
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:29,000
even if they had been launched they

1173
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:31,010
could not have you know found their

1174
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:32,960
targets but there was no specific

1175
00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:35,119
reference within that the guidance

1176
00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:37,040
system to the targeting tapes from these

1177
00:50:41,740 --> 00:50:39,920
firsthand witnesses just want to tell

1178
00:50:44,140 --> 00:50:41,750
our listeners that next week on the

1179
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:44,150
power cast we'll be featuring the return

1180
00:50:47,980 --> 00:50:46,490
of Leslie Cain and she's going to bring

1181
00:50:49,630 --> 00:50:47,990
with her to the second half of the show

1182
00:50:52,420 --> 00:50:49,640
Charles halt of course one of the

1183
00:50:55,690 --> 00:50:52,430
figures in the Rendlesham UFO case

1184
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:55,700
Leslie Cain was also not present nor

1185
00:51:00,130 --> 00:50:57,920
invited to the Citizen hearing on

1186
00:51:02,650 --> 00:51:00,140
disclosure so you look at the esteemed

1187
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:02,660
people who didn't go there and that

1188
00:51:07,180 --> 00:51:04,970
brings up lots of interesting reasons

1189
00:51:09,610 --> 00:51:07,190
lots of interesting things to talk about

1190
00:51:11,830 --> 00:51:09,620
Leslie Kane Charles Hall on next week's

1191
00:51:14,290 --> 00:51:11,840
episode as always if you have a comment

1192
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:14,300
or question write us news if the power

1193
00:51:20,530 --> 00:51:18,110
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1194
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:20,540
have God's Makai our guest panelist our

1195
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:23,210
main guest this week is Robert Hastings

1196
00:51:27,730 --> 00:51:25,280
he's author of a book called UFOs and

1197
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:27,740
nukes and you're on with gene and Chris

1198
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:31,070
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1202
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1215
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1216
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1219
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1222
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1229
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1231
00:54:04,430 --> 00:54:00,090
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1232
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1233
00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:13,060
here's gene Steinberg with gene and

1234
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:15,550
Chris and our panelist Cox McCarty

1235
00:54:19,980 --> 00:54:17,530
we have Robert Hastings author of UFOs

1236
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:19,990
and nukes Chris is up next with

1237
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:23,440
questions yeah I you know Robert you

1238
00:54:27,890 --> 00:54:25,570
mentioned in the previous segment that

1239
00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:27,900
you know George Knapp was able to

1240
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:30,940
confirm and actually smuggle a documents

1241
00:54:37,890 --> 00:54:33,970
back from the Soviet Union in the early

1242
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:37,900
90s that that indicate that it's not

1243
00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:42,010
only a u.s. problem on missile sites but

1244
00:54:47,850 --> 00:54:45,070
also the Soviet Union has has had

1245
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:47,860
similar types of events to what extent

1246
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:49,570
we I'm sure we don't really fully know

1247
00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:52,720
but how about China or some of the other

1248
00:54:59,220 --> 00:54:55,270
nuclear powers do we have any smoking

1249
00:55:01,590 --> 00:54:59,230
gun evidence that China or maybe French

1250
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:01,600
nuclear testing out in the South Pacific

1251
00:55:07,230 --> 00:55:05,050
let's say in the 50s and into the 60s do

1252
00:55:10,290 --> 00:55:07,240
we have any other international type

1253
00:55:14,190 --> 00:55:10,300
cases well let's look at the French

1254
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:14,200
cases first let me preface my remarks by

1255
00:55:19,470 --> 00:55:16,330
saying that I have largely focused on

1256
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:19,480
both the US and the former Soviet Union

1257
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:21,730
so my knowledge of what I'm about to say

1258
00:55:26,310 --> 00:55:24,160
is peripheral and certainly doesn't does

1259
00:55:29,490 --> 00:55:26,320
not involve direct research but there

1260
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:29,500
are credible information available on me

1261
00:55:34,980 --> 00:55:31,930
and the internet that I found indicating

1262
00:55:37,980 --> 00:55:34,990
that on at least three occasions UFO

1263
00:55:40,350 --> 00:55:37,990
activity was observed by French nuclear

1264
00:55:44,190 --> 00:55:40,360
technicians testing nuclear weapons in

1265
00:55:46,140 --> 00:55:44,200
French Polynesia in the 1960s and I

1266
00:55:47,970 --> 00:55:46,150
can't pull the gentleman's name off the

1267
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:47,980
top of my head but his credentials have

1268
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:50,290
been verified he was part of the French

1269
00:55:56,340 --> 00:55:54,370
nuclear testing program China which

1270
00:55:59,000 --> 00:55:56,350
obviously is a major player in the world

1271
00:56:01,860 --> 00:55:59,010
and even well it was less so in the 60s

1272
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:01,870
but they did have nuclear weapons from

1273
00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:05,170
1964 on one would assume and I am quite

1274
00:56:09,390 --> 00:56:07,150
convinced that there was indeed UFO

1275
00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:09,400
monitoring perhaps even tampering

1276
00:56:14,790 --> 00:56:12,310
with Chinese nuclear weapons but it's

1277
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:14,800
such a closed society is so difficult to

1278
00:56:19,470 --> 00:56:16,930
get information even today about

1279
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:19,480
military affairs that I have not found

1280
00:56:24,750 --> 00:56:22,690
anything despite my many efforts to find

1281
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:24,760
incredible information now China haven't

1282
00:56:32,370 --> 00:56:29,770
on the other hand in I believe and well

1283
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:32,380
India tested its first weapon in the 70s

1284
00:56:37,620 --> 00:56:34,810
if I'm not mistaken and the Pakistanis

1285
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:37,630
in the late 90s and I'm aware of what I

1286
00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:39,730
consider to be credible reports online

1287
00:56:45,830 --> 00:56:42,220
relating to UFO sightings around the

1288
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:45,840
test areas in both India and Pakistan

1289
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:48,640
they are arch enemies because of the

1290
00:56:53,580 --> 00:56:51,040
Hindu Muslim you know rivalry or

1291
00:56:55,830 --> 00:56:53,590
whatever the word would be and so

1292
00:56:58,500 --> 00:56:55,840
unfortunately you know fly if there's

1293
00:57:01,110 --> 00:56:58,510
going to be a flash point the odds of

1294
00:57:03,390 --> 00:57:01,120
having a major u.s. Russian exchange at

1295
00:57:05,610 --> 00:57:03,400
least at this point in time have been

1296
00:57:08,850 --> 00:57:05,620
reduced significantly but other areas of

1297
00:57:11,250 --> 00:57:08,860
the world like the Pakistani Indian area

1298
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:11,260
you know that may well flare up at some

1299
00:57:14,970 --> 00:57:13,330
point in time and they both at both have

1300
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:14,980
nukes so I would assume that there's

1301
00:57:19,590 --> 00:57:17,470
some interest on the part of whoever are

1302
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:19,600
flying the disc-shaped craft that had

1303
00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:21,010
been reported in American and Russian

1304
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:23,710
side India and Pakistan actually have

1305
00:57:29,490 --> 00:57:26,170
been in a undeclared state of war since

1306
00:57:33,390 --> 00:57:29,500
since the Kashmir you know conflict

1307
00:57:36,660 --> 00:57:33,400
started 3540 years ago I think even

1308
00:57:39,630 --> 00:57:36,670
longer closer to 50 years and it would

1309
00:57:42,330 --> 00:57:39,640
be interesting to get more information

1310
00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:42,340
on some of the UFO sightings that have

1311
00:57:48,090 --> 00:57:45,820
been seen flying down this valley that

1312
00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:48,100
lies between these two opposing forces

1313
00:57:52,590 --> 00:57:50,950
up there that's one area that has had

1314
00:57:54,330 --> 00:57:52,600
recently in the last I think three or

1315
00:57:56,700 --> 00:57:54,340
four years some pretty interesting UFO

1316
00:57:58,860 --> 00:57:56,710
reports I've got a quick point on a

1317
00:58:02,490 --> 00:57:58,870
question the quick point is we were

1318
00:58:05,460 --> 00:58:02,500
talking about possible motives for the

1319
00:58:07,860 --> 00:58:05,470
interference at nuclear facilities I'd

1320
00:58:10,350 --> 00:58:07,870
wondered Robert kind of touched on this

1321
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:10,360
I'd wondered if it was a possible

1322
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:15,250
warning stroke kind of monitoring about

1323
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:18,160
the environmental side of things and

1324
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:20,110
perhaps Robert can answer whether

1325
00:58:25,740 --> 00:58:22,510
there's been any you

1326
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:25,750
for interest over nuclear waste storage

1327
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:28,000
facilities that those ones that are

1328
00:58:32,370 --> 00:58:29,920
separate from you know like active

1329
00:58:34,020 --> 00:58:32,380
facilities and another question I had is

1330
00:58:36,810 --> 00:58:34,030
actually we're hearing about

1331
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:36,820
interference of missiles and for

1332
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:38,290
instance in the land Osram case

1333
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:40,690
supposedly you know there was a quote

1334
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:44,050
the ordinance was adversely affected

1335
00:58:49,050 --> 00:58:46,450
I wonder more specifically enough and

1336
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:49,060
more scientifically than not does Robert

1337
00:58:55,140 --> 00:58:52,240
know of any actual changes in the

1338
00:58:57,540 --> 00:58:55,150
nuclear material self the actual I used

1339
00:59:00,620 --> 00:58:57,550
to talks as like as a banana detect a

1340
00:59:04,410 --> 00:59:00,630
change in half-life or the decay series

1341
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:04,420
elements and anything like that kind of

1342
00:59:10,170 --> 00:59:07,810
a chemical or physical change in the

1343
00:59:14,820 --> 00:59:10,180
actual nuclear material has there ever

1344
00:59:17,310 --> 00:59:14,830
been any information about that when we

1345
00:59:18,450 --> 00:59:17,320
hopefully remember all of those various

1346
00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:18,460
questions

1347
00:59:24,450 --> 00:59:21,520
I take taking them one at a time I have

1348
00:59:27,150 --> 00:59:24,460
heard rumors from from a couple of my ex

1349
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:27,160
military services about rumors they had

1350
00:59:31,940 --> 00:59:29,410
heard within their squadrons about when

1351
00:59:34,170 --> 00:59:31,950
the warheads were inspected that the

1352
00:59:35,970 --> 00:59:34,180
plutonium had found to have been

1353
00:59:38,849 --> 00:59:35,980
adversely affected in other words it

1354
00:59:42,570 --> 00:59:38,859
would not have allowed for you know a

1355
00:59:44,730 --> 00:59:42,580
nuclear detonation I have to say that

1356
00:59:47,060 --> 00:59:44,740
evidence or those anecdotal statements

1357
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:47,070
to me I don't consider as credible

1358
00:59:52,260 --> 00:59:49,290
without getting into all the details

1359
00:59:54,359 --> 00:59:52,270
they weren't really detailed they

1360
00:59:57,359 --> 00:59:54,369
weren't really first-hand accounts they

1361
00:59:59,400 --> 00:59:57,369
were just rumors floating around I'm not

1362
01:00:05,280 --> 00:59:59,410
aware of although I'm sure there have

1363
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:05,290
been UFO activity at nuclear storage

1364
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:09,609
facilities I will however say that there

1365
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:12,910
are there is a persistent story in fact

1366
01:00:17,460 --> 01:00:14,710
it's been reported in both the Ukrainian

1367
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:17,470
and the Russian press in the early 90s

1368
01:00:25,050 --> 01:00:20,890
that when the Chernobyl nuclear reacted

1369
01:00:27,349 --> 01:00:25,060
exploded in April 1986 among the persons

1370
01:00:30,330 --> 01:00:27,359
on scene within hours were Soviet

1371
01:00:32,130 --> 01:00:30,340
radiation monitoring teams apparently

1372
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:32,140
according to these articles in both the

1373
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:34,000
Russian and Ukrainian media in the early

1374
01:00:37,890 --> 01:00:36,250
90s some of the people

1375
01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:37,900
at least one of the people assigned to

1376
01:00:41,550 --> 01:00:39,910
one of these teams has gone on the

1377
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:41,560
record as saying that they had already

1378
01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:43,570
taken radiation readings which were just

1379
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:45,910
ridiculously high then this brass

1380
01:00:51,690 --> 01:00:48,370
colored sphere appeared above the

1381
01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:51,700
reactor and allegedly sent down to

1382
01:00:56,940 --> 01:00:54,640
crimson colored beams into the reactor

1383
01:00:58,920 --> 01:00:56,950
this gentleman alleges that this object

1384
01:01:01,560 --> 01:00:58,930
was there for some three to five minutes

1385
01:01:03,450 --> 01:01:01,570
before racing away he further said in

1386
01:01:06,420 --> 01:01:03,460
these articles that when they took their

1387
01:01:08,970 --> 01:01:06,430
next reading of the ambient radiation it

1388
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:08,980
was I believe reduced by two-thirds or

1389
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:11,050
three-quarters I'd have to look at the

1390
01:01:15,780 --> 01:01:12,880
appendix in my book to get the details

1391
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:15,790
but significantly reduced now assuming

1392
01:01:20,910 --> 01:01:18,910
one that this is accurate reporting you

1393
01:01:23,790 --> 01:01:20,920
know and that this indeed occurred I

1394
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:23,800
don't think there's any known scientific

1395
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:27,250
explanation for radioactive decay being

1396
01:01:31,770 --> 01:01:30,130
artificially reduced to such a dramatic

1397
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:31,780
degree in a short period of time

1398
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:34,000
I'm unaware of any way that we can do

1399
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:36,070
that or whether it's even considered

1400
01:01:40,050 --> 01:01:38,110
theoretically possible but that was the

1401
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:40,060
report before we get to further along

1402
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:42,130
the road here let me mention something

1403
01:01:45,930 --> 01:01:44,170
about Rendlesham forest in my book

1404
01:01:47,940 --> 01:01:45,940
devoted a whole whole chapter to the

1405
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:47,950
incidents in December of 1980 at

1406
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:50,650
Rendlesham floors and then also RAF

1407
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:52,930
Bentwaters where at that time it was

1408
01:01:59,220 --> 01:01:55,810
leased by the US Air Force they had the

1409
01:02:01,830 --> 01:01:59,230
largest nuclear weapons depot in Western

1410
01:02:03,690 --> 01:02:01,840
Europe at RAF Bentwaters based on

1411
01:02:06,030 --> 01:02:03,700
information I have my sources that

1412
01:02:08,010 --> 01:02:06,040
contain tactical nuclear bombs that is

1413
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:08,020
battlefield nukes that would be

1414
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:10,630
delivered to mainland Europe in the case

1415
01:02:15,660 --> 01:02:13,450
of Soviet invasion of Western Europe jet

1416
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:15,670
fighters would fly these tactical nukes

1417
01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:18,400
and hope to blunt a Soviet offensive I

1418
01:02:23,970 --> 01:02:22,030
have witnesses who have said in Colonel

1419
01:02:25,860 --> 01:02:23,980
including Colonel halt who said he heard

1420
01:02:28,470 --> 01:02:25,870
on the radio chatter from guards at the

1421
01:02:30,570 --> 01:02:28,480
weapons storage area of a UFO hovering

1422
01:02:32,790 --> 01:02:30,580
over that site sending down beams of

1423
01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:32,800
light into it now I interviewed him and

1424
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:34,480
I was six he had already made statements

1425
01:02:40,020 --> 01:02:36,970
to that effect on the program unsolved

1426
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:40,030
mysteries in 1991 I asked him about that

1427
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:42,310
at length in my taped interview he be

1428
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:44,640
declined to answer specific questions

1429
01:02:48,810 --> 01:02:46,450
confirming the presence of nuclear

1430
01:02:49,980 --> 01:02:48,820
weapons because that's that's official

1431
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:49,990
airports policy

1432
01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:52,480
you don't confirm or deny the presence

1433
01:02:56,910 --> 01:02:55,420
of locations of weapons but he did

1434
01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:56,920
confirmed that he heard radio chatter

1435
01:03:01,470 --> 01:02:58,720
while he was out in the farmer's field

1436
01:03:03,030 --> 01:03:01,480
back to the wood next to the woods most

1437
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:03,040
people know that story tromping around

1438
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:04,930
looking at strange lights in Rendlesham

1439
01:03:11,010 --> 01:03:07,930
forest he did confirm to me and this

1440
01:03:14,220 --> 01:03:11,020
audio tape conversation that he did hear

1441
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:14,230
radio chatter of very excited chatter by

1442
01:03:18,660 --> 01:03:16,450
guards at the weapons storage area of a

1443
01:03:21,030 --> 01:03:18,670
UFO sending down beams of light into it

1444
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:21,040
nearly a decade prior to my conversation

1445
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:21,970
with Colonel Hall

1446
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:23,770
I interviewed another retired Air Force

1447
01:03:27,870 --> 01:03:26,050
colonel I'm not at liberty to identify

1448
01:03:31,260 --> 01:03:27,880
him I know who he is I know his

1449
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:31,270
credentials he was very very high up in

1450
01:03:35,250 --> 01:03:33,250
the NATO nuclear weapons security

1451
01:03:36,750 --> 01:03:35,260
apparatus we have Robert Hastings

1452
01:03:39,090 --> 01:03:36,760
joining us and he'll give you the rest

1453
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:39,100
that answered our next segment with dr.

1454
01:03:50,010 --> 01:03:41,530
McKay Jean Steinberg Chris O'Brien

1455
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:50,020
you're in the para cast attack of the

1456
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:51,970
rockets has been well received by

1457
01:03:56,370 --> 01:03:54,250
critics and readers alike it's a thrill

1458
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a minute story you'll never forget a

1459
01:04:01,349 --> 01:03:58,690
former US military intelligence officer

1460
01:04:03,870 --> 01:04:01,359
is haunted by intense dreams about a

1461
01:04:06,290 --> 01:04:03,880
beautiful woman pleading for his help

1462
01:04:08,790 --> 01:04:06,300
after a terrible battle in outer space

1463
01:04:10,859 --> 01:04:08,800
but the dreams turn out to be true

1464
01:04:13,380 --> 01:04:10,869
and thrust him into a telepathic love

1465
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:13,390
affair with a woman whose faraway planet

1466
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:16,000
is intent on destroying the earth and

1467
01:04:21,690 --> 01:04:18,970
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1468
01:04:24,420 --> 01:04:21,700
coming of the protectors it's the second

1469
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:24,430
book of the Rockets trilogy a galaxy

1470
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:26,290
spanning adventure that pits our hapless

1471
01:04:31,109 --> 01:04:29,050
heroes against powerful fanatical

1472
01:04:34,020 --> 01:04:31,119
enemies that threaten the lives of

1473
01:04:36,510 --> 01:04:34,030
freedom loving beings everywhere attack

1474
01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:36,520
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1475
01:04:42,660 --> 01:04:39,400
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1476
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1477
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1478
01:04:53,490 --> 01:04:50,920
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1479
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:53,500
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1480
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:54,850
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1481
01:04:58,980 --> 01:04:56,890
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1482
01:05:00,310 --> 01:04:58,990
one day they have already very clearly

1483
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:00,320
telling you that there

1484
01:05:03,730 --> 01:05:02,090
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1485
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1486
01:05:07,810 --> 01:05:05,870
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1487
01:05:09,910 --> 01:05:07,820
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1488
01:05:14,430 --> 01:05:09,920
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1489
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1490
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1491
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1492
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1493
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:24,200
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1494
01:05:59,200 --> 01:05:43,540
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1515
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1516
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1517
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even professional burglars into thinking

1518
01:07:08,690 --> 01:07:06,330
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1519
01:07:11,150 --> 01:07:08,700
it gives me great peace of mind to set

1520
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:11,160
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1521
01:07:15,260 --> 01:07:13,050
passing motorists and pedestrians will

1522
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1523
01:07:20,420 --> 01:07:17,540
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1524
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1525
01:07:24,650 --> 01:07:22,590
light on a timer and they're so easy to

1526
01:07:26,450 --> 01:07:24,660
use you just plug them in and they're

1527
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:26,460
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1528
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that we have one upstairs and downstairs

1529
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1530
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1531
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:38,250
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1532
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1533
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1534
01:07:50,530 --> 01:07:48,900
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1535
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1536
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:53,520
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1537
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1538
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1540
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1542
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1543
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:15,270
talking to Robert Hastings offered UFOs

1544
01:08:21,470 --> 01:08:18,810
and nukes he was talking about more of

1545
01:08:23,150 --> 01:08:21,480
his evidence with regard to UFOs and

1546
01:08:26,210 --> 01:08:23,160
nuclear installations and everything and

1547
01:08:29,060 --> 01:08:26,220
we had to break up that answer which now

1548
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:29,070
Robert you can finish in 1994 in

1549
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:31,290
Albuquerque I interviewed retired Air

1550
01:08:36,710 --> 01:08:33,570
Force colonel who was previously

1551
01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:36,720
attached to the NATO nuclear weapons

1552
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:39,839
security group at a very high level and

1553
01:08:46,370 --> 01:08:41,810
he confirms to me much to my surprise

1554
01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:46,380
that in fact just days after this object

1555
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:48,450
apparently hovered over the RAF

1556
01:08:54,230 --> 01:08:50,810
Bentwaters nuclear weapons storage area

1557
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:54,240
sending down beams of light into it two

1558
01:08:59,780 --> 01:08:56,250
tactical nukes this Colonel said were

1559
01:09:01,730 --> 01:08:59,790
loaded aboard a c5a aircraft and flown

1560
01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:01,740
to Kirtland Air Force Base where there

1561
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:03,839
is a nuclear weapons analysis laboratory

1562
01:09:10,130 --> 01:09:07,530
and they were in fact analyzed now this

1563
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:10,140
gentlemen claim to have read report

1564
01:09:14,599 --> 01:09:12,810
detailing all that when I asked him what

1565
01:09:16,220 --> 01:09:14,609
the findings of the inquiry the

1566
01:09:18,620 --> 01:09:16,230
investigation of the weapons were he

1567
01:09:20,059 --> 01:09:18,630
claimed that that information was not in

1568
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:20,069
the report that he read

1569
01:09:24,620 --> 01:09:21,330
and therefore does not know the outcome

1570
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:24,630
of that but at the very least it appears

1571
01:09:28,910 --> 01:09:26,370
that the air force at that situation

1572
01:09:31,190 --> 01:09:28,920
seriously enough to remove two of these

1573
01:09:33,140 --> 01:09:31,200
nukes how they determine which ones to

1574
01:09:34,700 --> 01:09:33,150
remove from which bunker there are

1575
01:09:37,250 --> 01:09:34,710
multiple bunkers at the weapon storage

1576
01:09:39,710 --> 01:09:37,260
area I don't really know let me quickly

1577
01:09:43,370 --> 01:09:39,720
summarize my knowledge of the Rendlesham

1578
01:09:46,730 --> 01:09:43,380
forest Bentwaters case by saying that in

1579
01:09:49,220 --> 01:09:46,740
2007 I personally tracked down the two

1580
01:09:50,750 --> 01:09:49,230
your forest air traffic controllers who

1581
01:09:53,090 --> 01:09:50,760
were on duty that week during all of

1582
01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:53,100
that activity no one else in the last

1583
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:55,710
30-something years ever took the he took

1584
01:10:00,320 --> 01:09:57,810
the initiative to do that I located them

1585
01:10:02,810 --> 01:10:00,330
I identified them like Barker and Jim

1586
01:10:04,490 --> 01:10:02,820
Carrey I conducted audio taped

1587
01:10:06,710 --> 01:10:04,500
interviews with them and what they each

1588
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:06,720
told me independently was they tracked a

1589
01:10:11,570 --> 01:10:09,450
bonafide UFO the night that Colonel halt

1590
01:10:13,610 --> 01:10:11,580
was in the woods this is important

1591
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:13,620
because skeptics have continually said

1592
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:15,120
no they were just looking at this

1593
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:17,760
lighthouse through the woods or you know

1594
01:10:22,010 --> 01:10:20,250
some such prosaic explanation for what

1595
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:22,020
cult and the others out there in the

1596
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:23,850
woods reported what these two air

1597
01:10:29,830 --> 01:10:26,730
traffic control controllers told me was

1598
01:10:34,700 --> 01:10:29,840
that they tracked an object that covered

1599
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:34,710
120 miles in eight second and one of the

1600
01:10:38,810 --> 01:10:37,050
rollers remembers that during that

1601
01:10:41,180 --> 01:10:38,820
period when they were watching this

1602
01:10:44,030 --> 01:10:41,190
object on radar it did a 90 degree right

1603
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:44,040
angle turn moreover one of the

1604
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:45,930
controllers who looked up from the scope

1605
01:10:50,270 --> 01:10:48,510
and out the windows said he saw at the

1606
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:50,280
poem moment when this object covered

1607
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:52,650
momentarily he looked out and saw

1608
01:10:59,390 --> 01:10:55,050
hovering over the base water tower a

1609
01:11:01,400 --> 01:10:59,400
glowing orange year and he said that it

1610
01:11:03,340 --> 01:11:01,410
was there for just two or three seconds

1611
01:11:06,140 --> 01:11:03,350
and then zipped off to the southwest

1612
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:06,150
just to the west of the weapons storage

1613
01:11:11,870 --> 01:11:09,600
area so the skeptics the debunkers can

1614
01:11:14,510 --> 01:11:11,880
say all they want about this not being a

1615
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:14,520
UFO that it simply was a lighthouse but

1616
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:17,040
the two guys who were monitoring their

1617
01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:19,890
aircraft control scope that night said

1618
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:22,560
that they tracked a bonafide UFO that

1619
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:25,410
one of them selves the window one of

1620
01:11:29,870 --> 01:11:28,410
them said did a 90 degree turn and he

1621
01:11:32,350 --> 01:11:29,880
apparently was quite near the weapons

1622
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:32,360
storage area I went it left the vicinity

1623
01:11:37,109 --> 01:11:34,850
you had a question yeah a very quick one

1624
01:11:41,410 --> 01:11:37,119
Robert have you had any personal UFO

1625
01:11:44,770 --> 01:11:41,420
experiences I have seen beginning in

1626
01:11:48,010 --> 01:11:44,780
1970 and I think the last one was 2001

1627
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:48,020
I've seen six separate objects one at a

1628
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:48,560
time

1629
01:11:53,620 --> 01:11:50,770
is some in daylight some in the evening

1630
01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:53,630
quite clearly anomalous aerial objects

1631
01:11:58,359 --> 01:11:56,000
that were not aircraft the daylight

1632
01:12:00,669 --> 01:11:58,369
sightings involved a silver cigar with

1633
01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:00,679
no tail fins no markings of any kind it

1634
01:12:05,740 --> 01:12:03,110
was not a cruise missile it was like if

1635
01:12:08,140 --> 01:12:05,750
you can imagine CR with you know tapered

1636
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:08,150
tips clearly moving through the sky

1637
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:10,850
north of Albuquerque in daylight I've

1638
01:12:17,729 --> 01:12:13,730
also seen a disc in broad daylight near

1639
01:12:21,310 --> 01:12:17,739
my farm near Chicago back in the mid-70s

1640
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:21,320
I've seen a similar disc in southwestern

1641
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:22,610
New Mexico in broad daylight

1642
01:12:27,340 --> 01:12:24,770
I'm maneuvering through the sky I've

1643
01:12:29,919 --> 01:12:27,350
also seen other objects that were

1644
01:12:31,959 --> 01:12:29,929
luminous plasma balls performing

1645
01:12:35,050 --> 01:12:31,969
maneuvers that no aircraft on earth can

1646
01:12:37,660 --> 01:12:35,060
do and quite clearly we're not all like

1647
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:37,670
in or anything like that so aside from

1648
01:12:42,729 --> 01:12:39,679
those six sightings no I can't say that

1649
01:12:44,410 --> 01:12:42,739
I've had a personal UFO experience least

1650
01:12:46,540 --> 01:12:44,420
you had six sightings I've had none I

1651
01:12:47,919 --> 01:12:46,550
have a fast question to ask before we go

1652
01:12:50,169 --> 01:12:47,929
on and we do have a lot of listener

1653
01:12:54,399 --> 01:12:50,179
questions as you know Robert and that is

1654
01:12:56,890 --> 01:12:54,409
okay we have all these cases of UFOs in

1655
01:12:58,770 --> 01:12:56,900
and around nuclear installations but you

1656
01:13:01,209 --> 01:12:58,780
think if they were really concerned

1657
01:13:03,490 --> 01:13:01,219
about our nuclear program they'd be

1658
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:03,500
around all the time not just here and

1659
01:13:08,500 --> 01:13:06,080
there well two points come to mind first

1660
01:13:11,229 --> 01:13:08,510
I would say my research is just

1661
01:13:13,180 --> 01:13:11,239
scratching the surface I think for every

1662
01:13:15,310 --> 01:13:13,190
case that I know about there's probably

1663
01:13:17,620 --> 01:13:15,320
a hundred or a thousand who knows cases

1664
01:13:19,330 --> 01:13:17,630
over the last seven years that I'll

1665
01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:19,340
never know about because the witnesses

1666
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:20,960
haven't come forward to me or I haven't

1667
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:23,210
stumbled upon them for those documents

1668
01:13:28,330 --> 01:13:26,449
will be hidden in perpetuity but to say

1669
01:13:30,850 --> 01:13:28,340
that you know I went up to Montana last

1670
01:13:32,530 --> 01:13:30,860
fall in October and all I did was have

1671
01:13:34,359 --> 01:13:32,540
to go to the Fergus County Sheriff's

1672
01:13:37,810 --> 01:13:34,369
Department looked through their blotter

1673
01:13:40,629 --> 01:13:37,820
their report record and I found six UFO

1674
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:40,639
reports in September timeframe near

1675
01:13:45,399 --> 01:13:42,650
nuclear weapons sites in Montana this

1676
01:13:46,210 --> 01:13:45,409
was the fall of 2012 I subsequently

1677
01:13:48,850 --> 01:13:46,220
interviewed

1678
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:48,860
one of the eyewitnesses a civilian named

1679
01:13:53,470 --> 01:13:51,410
Jennifer styler stylers I'd have to look

1680
01:13:56,110 --> 01:13:53,480
at my notes and she said she saw two

1681
01:13:59,020 --> 01:13:56,120
boomerang shaped craft approximately

1682
01:14:01,980 --> 01:13:59,030
halfway between a missile site pole f3

1683
01:14:05,230 --> 01:14:01,990
and her home southwest of that site and

1684
01:14:07,660 --> 01:14:05,240
September I think it was 19th of 2012 so

1685
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:07,670
it's ongoing addressing your larger

1686
01:14:12,430 --> 01:14:09,410
question here is what I think is going

1687
01:14:15,370 --> 01:14:12,440
on whoever these these guys are and I

1688
01:14:17,470 --> 01:14:15,380
think it's multiple eg races in my view

1689
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:17,480
that are now here interacting with

1690
01:14:22,090 --> 01:14:19,810
humankind at this point in our history

1691
01:14:23,770 --> 01:14:22,100
they probably have been around for

1692
01:14:26,850 --> 01:14:23,780
thousands of years but let's just talk

1693
01:14:30,190 --> 01:14:26,860
post-world War two there's so much

1694
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:30,200
circumstantial evidence that the UFO

1695
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:33,290
activity just took a dramatic upswing at

1696
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:35,930
the precise time that we invented and

1697
01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:37,730
began to test and began to employ

1698
01:14:42,430 --> 01:14:39,920
nuclear weapons that's that is just so

1699
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:42,440
well-established I don't think it's a

1700
01:14:47,290 --> 01:14:46,010
coincidence now why I have been asked

1701
01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:47,300
don't they just sit down on the White

1702
01:14:51,580 --> 01:14:49,760
House lawn or and in the Kremlin core

1703
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:51,590
clock yard and they clear to everyone

1704
01:14:55,780 --> 01:14:53,930
they're real they're here and get out

1705
01:14:58,060 --> 01:14:55,790
and say get rid of your nukes you know

1706
01:15:00,130 --> 01:14:58,070
why don't they address this directly to

1707
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:00,140
face to face with our leaders in the

1708
01:15:05,530 --> 01:15:02,930
nuclear powers my view is that because

1709
01:15:06,130 --> 01:15:05,540
they intend from contact with us in the

1710
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:06,140
future

1711
01:15:10,630 --> 01:15:08,210
the time has not yet arrived where they

1712
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:10,640
plan to openly reveal themselves to us

1713
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:13,760
but they have had you probably against

1714
01:15:18,610 --> 01:15:16,880
their will or not by intention had to

1715
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:18,620
start interfering with our nuclear

1716
01:15:23,170 --> 01:15:21,170
weapons because there was a very great

1717
01:15:26,140 --> 01:15:23,180
potential during the Cold War area for

1718
01:15:28,420 --> 01:15:26,150
massive destruction planetary wide and I

1719
01:15:30,430 --> 01:15:28,430
think what they've done is interjected

1720
01:15:33,220 --> 01:15:30,440
themselves in an ongoing but stealthy

1721
01:15:35,770 --> 01:15:33,230
fashion so the public as a whole does

1722
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:35,780
not know this is really going on but the

1723
01:15:40,510 --> 01:15:37,250
military leaders in both the nuclear

1724
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:40,520
power sure as hell do and therefore they

1725
01:15:43,870 --> 01:15:42,080
can make a point you know to the

1726
01:15:46,990 --> 01:15:43,880
Pentagon and the Russian military

1727
01:15:48,820 --> 01:15:47,000
leaders hey you know we're monitoring

1728
01:15:51,850 --> 01:15:48,830
your nukes we can shut them down if we

1729
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:51,860
want and so in yet the public at the

1730
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:53,690
same time worldwide doesn't really have

1731
01:15:58,750 --> 01:15:56,090
a sense that this is going on because

1732
01:15:59,830 --> 01:15:58,760
you know the vast majority of the planet

1733
01:16:01,330 --> 01:15:59,840
does not know anything

1734
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:01,340
about what I've discussed what I've

1735
01:16:06,370 --> 01:16:04,010
researched so the secret is still secret

1736
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:06,380
for the vast majority of humans well I

1737
01:16:12,370 --> 01:16:09,770
guess then that et whoever whatever it

1738
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:12,380
might be does not have a prime directive

1739
01:16:16,270 --> 01:16:14,330
not to interfere and just

1740
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,280
parenthetically I'll mention this but

1741
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:18,560
you can answer in our next segment do we

1742
01:16:22,090 --> 01:16:19,970
see this in North Korea which has

1743
01:16:25,060 --> 01:16:22,100
nuclear ambitions what about Iran and

1744
01:16:26,590 --> 01:16:25,070
their nuclear ambitions are the UFOs

1745
01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:26,600
hanging around there too

1746
01:16:31,660 --> 01:16:28,640
we have Robert Hastings joining us with

1747
01:16:40,330 --> 01:16:31,670
Godsmack I gene Steinberg Chris O'Brien

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1776
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don't even realize the terrible danger

1777
01:17:59,250 --> 01:17:57,070
were in Alex Jones has warned you for

1778
01:18:01,350 --> 01:17:59,260
years to get a good food storage we

1779
01:18:03,810 --> 01:18:01,360
thought the danger was drought or food

1780
01:18:06,029 --> 01:18:03,820
delivered to our gas tanks or our food

1781
01:18:07,949 --> 01:18:06,039
stole to other countries or food so

1782
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:07,959
expensive that only those on food stamps

1783
01:18:12,509 --> 01:18:10,510
and Welfare could afford it but we have

1784
01:18:14,399 --> 01:18:12,519
just experienced the most effective way

1785
01:18:16,919 --> 01:18:14,409
to lose your freedom liberty and

1786
01:18:20,850 --> 01:18:16,929
security without even a fight government

1787
01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:20,860
regulation after a 160 year tradition of

1788
01:18:24,569 --> 01:18:23,110
self-reliance the do-it-yourself and

1789
01:18:26,489 --> 01:18:24,579
charitable norm on food storage

1790
01:18:28,739 --> 01:18:26,499
canneries and half the country are

1791
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:28,749
forced to shut down due to excessive

1792
01:18:33,719 --> 01:18:31,090
government regulations grow your own

1793
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:33,729
food more regulations if you've ever

1794
01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:35,530
been warned to get food while you can

1795
01:18:39,870 --> 01:18:36,729
this is it

1796
01:18:40,290 --> 01:18:39,880
call 849 five six three three or on the

1797
01:18:42,810 --> 01:18:40,300
web

1798
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:42,820
he foods direct comm slash Alex that's

1799
01:18:51,899 --> 01:18:46,570
800 4 0 9 5 6 33 or on the web eat foods

1800
01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:51,909
direct comm slash Alex imagine wakin one

1801
01:18:54,659 --> 01:18:53,199
mornin only to find your family

1802
01:18:55,830 --> 01:18:54,669
shivering in the dark because you

1803
01:18:58,979 --> 01:18:55,840
couldn't afford to pay your electric

1804
01:19:00,330 --> 01:18:58,989
bill that's closer than you think you

1805
01:19:01,679 --> 01:19:00,340
probably haven't heard about this yet

1806
01:19:03,419 --> 01:19:01,689
because the liberal media has been

1807
01:19:07,139 --> 01:19:03,429
suppressing what is fast becoming the

1808
01:19:09,299 --> 01:19:07,149
most shocking news story of 2012 Obama's

1809
01:19:11,429 --> 01:19:09,309
secret war on coal that could increase

1810
01:19:14,459 --> 01:19:11,439
your already high power bill as much as

1811
01:19:16,620 --> 01:19:14,469
40% in coming months as shocking as it

1812
01:19:18,419 --> 01:19:16,630
sounds it may well be just a matter of

1813
01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:18,429
time before the lights start going out

1814
01:19:22,949 --> 01:19:20,800
across America but here are some good

1815
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:22,959
news there's an underground video and

1816
01:19:27,929 --> 01:19:26,110
exposed 1 2 3 dot-com that thousands of

1817
01:19:29,699 --> 01:19:27,939
smart Patriots have used to end their

1818
01:19:32,580 --> 01:19:29,709
slavery to the corrupt electricity

1819
01:19:34,350 --> 01:19:32,590
monopolies the video it exposed 1 2 3

1820
01:19:36,419 --> 01:19:34,360
dot-com has already been banned by

1821
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:36,429
Google and the liberal media is doing

1822
01:19:40,859 --> 01:19:38,320
everything in its power to take it down

1823
01:19:43,770 --> 01:19:40,869
and keep America in the dark so watch it

1824
01:19:44,729 --> 01:19:43,780
now to expose 1 2 3 dot-com before it's

1825
01:19:49,620 --> 01:19:44,739
too late again

1826
01:19:52,139 --> 01:19:49,630
that's exposed 1 2 3 calm this message

1827
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1828
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1829
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1830
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1831
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1832
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1850
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1851
01:21:00,530 --> 01:20:58,260
to the paragon with Jeanne and Chris and

1852
01:21:02,780 --> 01:21:00,540
gongs we've got Robert Hastings author

1853
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:02,790
of UFOs and nukes joining us and I

1854
01:21:07,970 --> 01:21:05,250
presume you might have a comment about

1855
01:21:10,490 --> 01:21:07,980
my last statement before the break yeah

1856
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:10,500
I've got one before Robert Giles I'm and

1857
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:14,130
Chris I would think that a sizable

1858
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:16,890
percentage of unidentified objects

1859
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:20,490
flying around Iran has a us well an

1860
01:21:26,930 --> 01:21:24,090
invisible USA sticker on it the problem

1861
01:21:28,370 --> 01:21:26,940
with Iran and North Korea is the same

1862
01:21:31,010 --> 01:21:28,380
problem with China they're closed

1863
01:21:33,170 --> 01:21:31,020
societies Westerners have very little

1864
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:33,180
access to information certainly relating

1865
01:21:37,580 --> 01:21:35,730
to sensitive matters such as UFO

1866
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:37,590
incursions what's saying you're near

1867
01:21:43,010 --> 01:21:40,650
nuclear sites or military sites so again

1868
01:21:45,740 --> 01:21:43,020
the same comment I made about China I am

1869
01:21:48,830 --> 01:21:45,750
aware of reports from both North Korea

1870
01:21:51,530 --> 01:21:48,840
and Iran of UFO sightings how credible

1871
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:51,540
those are based on the articles I've

1872
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:53,610
read they're not very credible reports

1873
01:21:57,980 --> 01:21:55,770
are certainly not substantiated well

1874
01:22:00,170 --> 01:21:57,990
theoretically I think yeah that's going

1875
01:22:03,230 --> 01:22:00,180
on the same thing with Israel Israel

1876
01:22:05,570 --> 01:22:03,240
it's known has a nuclear site in the

1877
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:05,580
Negev desert within the past five years

1878
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:07,770
I think it was there were reports from

1879
01:22:12,350 --> 01:22:09,570
the New York Times of an object being

1880
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:12,360
cited above this this plant in the Negev

1881
01:22:14,900 --> 01:22:12,930
desert

1882
01:22:17,150 --> 01:22:14,910
I know it's name is okay to me at the

1883
01:22:19,130 --> 01:22:17,160
moment but anyway it's their principal

1884
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:19,140
nuclear site and there were reports in

1885
01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:22,010
the New York Times and other papers a

1886
01:22:25,550 --> 01:22:24,510
spherical shaped object sighted hovering

1887
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:25,560
above this site

1888
01:22:30,740 --> 01:22:28,770
Damona it's called but the reports

1889
01:22:33,260 --> 01:22:30,750
funded and this may indeed have been the

1890
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:33,270
case that this was simply an errant

1891
01:22:37,610 --> 01:22:35,520
balloon that got over the site based on

1892
01:22:40,010 --> 01:22:37,620
the I was witness descriptions I think

1893
01:22:41,690 --> 01:22:40,020
that's a less likely explanation so this

1894
01:22:43,490 --> 01:22:41,700
may have been a bonafide UFO but

1895
01:22:46,310 --> 01:22:43,500
apparently whatever it was was shot down

1896
01:22:49,850 --> 01:22:46,320
by Israeli Jets because they'd violated

1897
01:22:52,370 --> 01:22:49,860
too sensitive airspace so again to be

1898
01:22:55,070 --> 01:22:52,380
redundant theoretically it's clear to me

1899
01:22:57,860 --> 01:22:55,080
I think that anyone who has nukes is

1900
01:23:00,230 --> 01:22:57,870
being monitored by UFOs but finding

1901
01:23:02,660 --> 01:23:00,240
reports in our own country let alone a

1902
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:02,670
closed society like North Korea is

1903
01:23:07,790 --> 01:23:04,890
pretty tough it's yeah virtually

1904
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:07,800
impossible I would imagine we have a lot

1905
01:23:12,650 --> 01:23:10,050
of questions from our listeners which

1906
01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:12,660
they posted over at the question Bank in

1907
01:23:17,690 --> 01:23:15,450
the power cast format for m-dot parents

1908
01:23:19,070 --> 01:23:17,700
calm I know Robert is aware of most of

1909
01:23:21,410 --> 01:23:19,080
those questions we probably won't have

1910
01:23:24,440 --> 01:23:21,420
time to ask all of them but Chris will

1911
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:24,450
ask a short cross-section let's start

1912
01:23:29,780 --> 01:23:26,850
with that right now yeah this is one

1913
01:23:32,330 --> 01:23:29,790
that kind of sticks out to me Robert it

1914
01:23:34,580 --> 01:23:32,340
does have to do with a researcher who

1915
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:34,590
has been is his work has been called

1916
01:23:39,860 --> 01:23:37,170
into question film brog no of course he

1917
01:23:42,620 --> 01:23:39,870
is one of his first books actually was

1918
01:23:44,660 --> 01:23:42,630
quite popular and allegedly co-authored

1919
01:23:47,060 --> 01:23:44,670
with J Allen Hynek who's already been

1920
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:47,070
mentioned in today's segment but the

1921
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:48,930
book is called night siege the event is

1922
01:23:54,740 --> 01:23:52,370
the the supposed UFO sighting and entity

1923
01:23:57,500 --> 01:23:54,750
sightings at the Indian Point nuclear

1924
01:23:59,870 --> 01:23:57,510
power station just north of New York

1925
01:24:03,200 --> 01:23:59,880
City what do you know about that

1926
01:24:05,660 --> 01:24:03,210
particular case and do you like I do

1927
01:24:08,630 --> 01:24:05,670
have a sense that possibly details were

1928
01:24:10,460 --> 01:24:08,640
embellished multiple witnesses have

1929
01:24:12,710 --> 01:24:10,470
independently reported that there was

1930
01:24:15,620 --> 01:24:12,720
UFO activity at the Indian Point nuclear

1931
01:24:17,690 --> 01:24:15,630
plant on the Hudson River back in the

1932
01:24:19,220 --> 01:24:17,700
late 80s so I think I mean they've

1933
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:19,230
independently discussed this in

1934
01:24:24,770 --> 01:24:21,600
newspapers and on television programs

1935
01:24:26,270 --> 01:24:24,780
I've seen witnesses who are driving up

1936
01:24:28,549 --> 01:24:26,280
you know this Parkway

1937
01:24:30,169 --> 01:24:28,559
on the river north home and apparently

1938
01:24:31,970 --> 01:24:30,179
one night thousands there were literally

1939
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:31,980
thousands of people who saw this thing

1940
01:24:36,020 --> 01:24:34,170
because the traffic was so heavy cars

1941
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:36,030
were stopping you know large numbers of

1942
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:37,770
cars are stopping people are getting out

1943
01:24:42,890 --> 01:24:40,530
and looking at this thing unfortunately

1944
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:42,900
getting back to Phillip and Brogdon l my

1945
01:24:47,629 --> 01:24:44,639
understanding is there is no question

1946
01:24:49,970 --> 01:24:47,639
that he forged both his military and his

1947
01:24:52,609 --> 01:24:49,980
academic credentials he has met

1948
01:24:54,740 --> 01:24:52,619
misrepresented himself thoroughly my

1949
01:24:56,990 --> 01:24:54,750
understanding of it based on quite

1950
01:24:58,399 --> 01:24:57,000
credible reports I've read online I'll

1951
01:25:00,290 --> 01:24:58,409
tell you a lot of those reports

1952
01:25:02,959 --> 01:25:00,300
originated with one of our regular

1953
01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:02,969
listeners Lance Moody who did his own

1954
01:25:07,129 --> 01:25:04,800
independent investigation and then when

1955
01:25:09,740 --> 01:25:07,139
we started to look into it we realized

1956
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:09,750
that what he said was true a lot of what

1957
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:11,610
this guy says about his educational

1958
01:25:15,620 --> 01:25:13,050
background well a lot of it is false

1959
01:25:19,299 --> 01:25:15,630
that's my understanding and there's

1960
01:25:21,740 --> 01:25:19,309
another UFO radio talk show host whose

1961
01:25:22,729 --> 01:25:21,750
name is escaping me at the moment I've

1962
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:22,739
been on his program

1963
01:25:28,580 --> 01:25:25,770
who independently checked out the

1964
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:28,590
situation and confirmed that indeed in

1965
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:31,199
brog no have basically misrepresented in

1966
01:25:35,810 --> 01:25:33,570
completely his military and academic

1967
01:25:37,339 --> 01:25:35,820
credentials if you guys want to help him

1968
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:37,349
with his named you know who I'm talking

1969
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:41,010
about I think he's a veteran he's gone

1970
01:25:46,910 --> 01:25:44,489
over her leg and gone on Necker yeah you

1971
01:25:49,399 --> 01:25:46,920
know he told me at an email exchange I

1972
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:49,409
went to him I knew his veteran status

1973
01:25:54,410 --> 01:25:52,170
I knew his familiarity with various

1974
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:54,420
things that Umbraco had said and he told

1975
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:56,250
me point blank in an email exchange that

1976
01:26:01,180 --> 01:25:58,320
yep I went checked it out it's all true

1977
01:26:04,069 --> 01:26:01,190
in broad nose has fraudulently

1978
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:04,079
represented himself so that indeed is

1979
01:26:07,060 --> 01:26:06,210
unfortunate but getting back to my

1980
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:07,070
earlier point

1981
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:09,690
fortunately talking about the incidents

1982
01:26:13,790 --> 01:26:11,489
at the new at the Indian Point nuclear

1983
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:13,800
power plant on the Hudson River in New

1984
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:16,650
York he in broad no is not the only

1985
01:26:21,919 --> 01:26:18,090
source of information for those

1986
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:21,929
sightings so Robert you know I correct

1987
01:26:26,540 --> 01:26:23,489
me if I'm wrong here but I think a night

1988
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:26,550
siege doesn't in brog know or possibly

1989
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:28,050
files from the edge one of his other

1990
01:26:32,569 --> 01:26:29,489
books doesn't he say something about

1991
01:26:34,339 --> 01:26:32,579
entities being seen going through walls

1992
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:34,349
and buildings and that sort of thing do

1993
01:26:39,140 --> 01:26:36,210
you recall any of that you you give it

1994
01:26:39,530 --> 01:26:39,150
in any Greek actually I read the book I

1995
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:39,540
read the

1996
01:26:43,850 --> 01:26:41,970
many years ago I don't recall a specific

1997
01:26:45,700 --> 01:26:43,860
reference to that that's not to say that

1998
01:26:48,110 --> 01:26:45,710
there wasn't one but I don't recall

1999
01:26:50,450 --> 01:26:48,120
before we go on let me tell our

2000
01:26:53,390 --> 01:26:50,460
listeners what the question Bank is all

2001
01:26:55,850 --> 01:26:53,400
about the question Bank is an area of

2002
01:26:58,010 --> 01:26:55,860
our forum at forum got the power cast

2003
01:27:00,830 --> 01:26:58,020
calm that is forum got the power cast

2004
01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:00,840
calm it gives you a chance to ask a

2005
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:03,120
question of a forthcoming guest when we

2006
01:27:07,460 --> 01:27:04,530
have enough warning sometimes we don't

2007
01:27:11,060 --> 01:27:07,470
all you have to do is visit us forum dr.

2008
01:27:13,490 --> 01:27:11,070
the para cast com signup join the forums

2009
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:13,500
it's free your email box won't be

2010
01:27:18,500 --> 01:27:16,050
inundated with spam either we protect

2011
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:18,510
the people who join our forums sign up

2012
01:27:22,730 --> 01:27:21,120
and post your own questions ok well we

2013
01:27:24,650 --> 01:27:22,740
do have a lot of questions here in the

2014
01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:24,660
question Bank and I'm glad that you've

2015
01:27:30,350 --> 01:27:27,360
had a chance to answer a number of them

2016
01:27:33,380 --> 01:27:30,360
but do we have any independent

2017
01:27:34,970 --> 01:27:33,390
confirmation of multiple missiles going

2018
01:27:38,330 --> 01:27:34,980
offline this is actually a question that

2019
01:27:41,810 --> 01:27:38,340
God's wrote out and I seem to remember

2020
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:41,820
and recall from your book that upwards

2021
01:27:46,460 --> 01:27:44,010
of 50 missiles I think in one event may

2022
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:46,470
have been impacted by by some sort of

2023
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:50,370
incursion gee well where do you stand on

2024
01:27:54,890 --> 01:27:53,010
the number of events that could have

2025
01:27:59,480 --> 01:27:54,900
simultaneously occurred and let's say

2026
01:28:01,100 --> 01:27:59,490
one fly over or one visitation before

2027
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:01,110
the incident you just mentioned in

2028
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:03,690
October of 2010 @fe war an Air Force

2029
01:28:09,170 --> 01:28:05,730
Base where apparently 50 missiles were

2030
01:28:10,820 --> 01:28:09,180
affected prior to that situation which

2031
01:28:13,790 --> 01:28:10,830
I'll discuss more in detail in a moment

2032
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:13,800
I was aware unaware of any incident

2033
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:16,290
where more than 10 missiles in a given

2034
01:28:19,970 --> 01:28:18,090
flight so those are 10 missiles

2035
01:28:22,610 --> 01:28:19,980
controlled by a single launch control

2036
01:28:25,460 --> 01:28:22,620
capsule had been affect it had gone down

2037
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:25,470
all at once there are multiple reports

2038
01:28:30,830 --> 01:28:28,110
of that the two best known ones were at

2039
01:28:32,930 --> 01:28:30,840
Ecco and Oscar flight in March of 67 at

2040
01:28:36,050 --> 01:28:32,940
Malmstrom Air Force Base and I've got

2041
01:28:39,020 --> 01:28:36,060
articles about that at my web site the

2042
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:39,030
incident @fe warned was rather

2043
01:28:45,890 --> 01:28:42,480
intriguing I held this UFO and nukes

2044
01:28:48,440 --> 01:28:45,900
press conference on September 27th 2010

2045
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:48,450
at the National Press Club CNN streamed

2046
01:28:53,300 --> 01:28:51,330
it live one can go to my home page at

2047
01:28:56,150 --> 01:28:53,310
UFO hastings calm

2048
01:28:59,690 --> 01:28:56,160
and see the full-length 63 I think it is

2049
01:29:03,290 --> 01:28:59,700
minute video that CNN streamed of the

2050
01:29:06,830 --> 01:29:03,300
entire press conference now me not even

2051
01:29:09,350 --> 01:29:06,840
a month later on October 23rd 2010 there

2052
01:29:11,810 --> 01:29:09,360
was this report at the Atlantic website

2053
01:29:13,900 --> 01:29:11,820
used to be the Atlantic magazine website

2054
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:13,910
I don't know its proper name nowadays a

2055
01:29:19,220 --> 01:29:17,250
reporter named mark am binder apparently

2056
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:19,230
got leaked information saying that the

2057
01:29:23,330 --> 01:29:21,210
air force that Fe Warren lost the

2058
01:29:26,270 --> 01:29:23,340
ability to communicate with 50 of its

2059
01:29:29,540 --> 01:29:26,280
missiles for 59 minutes was the story

2060
01:29:32,690 --> 01:29:29,550
however given that I know about this

2061
01:29:34,820 --> 01:29:32,700
ongoing activity at missile sites I in

2062
01:29:37,700 --> 01:29:34,830
was shortly thereafter made some

2063
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:37,710
inquiries and I had a ni a well actually

2064
01:29:43,070 --> 01:29:39,890
retired Air Force missile targeting

2065
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:43,080
contact who had active duty contacts at

2066
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:46,410
FE warrant long story short by late

2067
01:29:51,530 --> 01:29:49,050
November not even a month after the

2068
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:51,540
incident I had reports from eyewitnesses

2069
01:29:55,790 --> 01:29:53,610
that missile maintenance teams were out

2070
01:29:57,860 --> 01:29:55,800
in the field trying to ascertain why the

2071
01:30:01,460 --> 01:29:57,870
base couldn't communicate with 50 of its

2072
01:30:03,950 --> 01:30:01,470
missiles five flights of missiles five

2073
01:30:06,710 --> 01:30:03,960
launched capsules they cannot

2074
01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:06,720
communicate back and forth could not in

2075
01:30:11,540 --> 01:30:08,490
effect the launch those missiles cannot

2076
01:30:13,910 --> 01:30:11,550
be given the orders to it I got

2077
01:30:15,440 --> 01:30:13,920
independent testimony from missile

2078
01:30:18,170 --> 01:30:15,450
maintenance persons out in the field

2079
01:30:21,230 --> 01:30:18,180
that a huge cigar shaped object was

2080
01:30:23,210 --> 01:30:21,240
cited not only over 59 minute period

2081
01:30:26,510 --> 01:30:23,220
when the missiles were down but during

2082
01:30:28,580 --> 01:30:26,520
the next two days we have Robert

2083
01:30:30,350 --> 01:30:28,590
Hastings who will finish that answer in

2084
01:30:32,060 --> 01:30:30,360
our next segment because we got a lot

2085
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more to cover with Jean Chris and GOx

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2155
01:33:25,169 --> 01:33:23,530
you ever wondered why banks stockbrokers

2156
01:33:26,969 --> 01:33:25,179
investment advisors won't talk about

2157
01:33:29,489 --> 01:33:26,979
gold IRAs they've been available since

2158
01:33:31,259 --> 01:33:29,499
1986 yet the financial industry won't

2159
01:33:33,149 --> 01:33:31,269
recognize the value of gold for your

2160
01:33:35,459 --> 01:33:33,159
retirement goal does outperform paper

2161
01:33:36,959 --> 01:33:35,469
investments yet no word about IRAs if

2162
01:33:40,619 --> 01:33:36,969
you would like to have gold for your

2163
01:33:42,419 --> 01:33:40,629
retirement call 866 to 237 don't get

2164
01:34:22,829 --> 01:33:42,429
left behind by rising inflation and low

2165
01:34:24,419 --> 01:34:22,839
returns call 806-853-9949 can bed strips

2166
01:34:26,250 --> 01:34:24,429
and fibers to protect from counterfeit

2167
01:34:27,359 --> 01:34:26,260
and carting to a private bank having a

2168
01:34:29,099 --> 01:34:27,369
led back at interest

2169
01:34:30,929 --> 01:34:29,109
forcing taxes to service debt this

2170
01:34:32,399 --> 01:34:30,939
capitalism was Jefferson correct when

2171
01:34:34,049 --> 01:34:32,409
stating a central bank issuing the

2172
01:34:35,159 --> 01:34:34,059
public currency is a greater menace to

2173
01:34:36,899 --> 01:34:35,169
the liberties of the people than a

2174
01:34:38,339 --> 01:34:36,909
standing army hi Ted Anderson I'm

2175
01:34:40,169 --> 01:34:38,349
placing a free silver dollar in a book

2176
01:34:43,679 --> 01:34:40,179
that explains our monetary system call

2177
01:34:46,889 --> 01:34:43,689
for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time

2178
01:34:50,260 --> 01:34:46,899
to understand the system call 866 to 237

2179
01:34:56,639 --> 01:34:50,270
that's 800 686 to 237

2180
01:35:04,739 --> 01:34:59,139
nice reading and listening to the

2181
01:35:07,299 --> 01:35:04,749
paragraph with Jeanne and Chris and GOx

2182
01:35:09,699 --> 01:35:07,309
we have Robert Hastings author of UFOs

2183
01:35:11,619 --> 01:35:09,709
and nukes Robert you're in the middle of

2184
01:35:14,199 --> 01:35:11,629
an answer there and of course commercial

2185
01:35:16,089 --> 01:35:14,209
considerations forced us to break but

2186
01:35:18,849 --> 01:35:16,099
now you can continue an answer

2187
01:35:22,179 --> 01:35:18,859
I was simply recapping what I know about

2188
01:35:25,659 --> 01:35:22,189
the actual facts involving the incident

2189
01:35:28,569 --> 01:35:25,669
on October 23rd 2010 at FA Warren Air

2190
01:35:31,060 --> 01:35:28,579
Force Base after the story was broken by

2191
01:35:33,580 --> 01:35:31,070
the Atlantic website by a reporter mark

2192
01:35:37,119 --> 01:35:33,590
Ann binder that the Air Force had lost

2193
01:35:38,770 --> 01:35:37,129
allegedly for 59 minutes the ability to

2194
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:38,780
communicate with five flights of

2195
01:35:42,909 --> 01:35:41,090
missiles 50 missiles therefore in effect

2196
01:35:45,159 --> 01:35:42,919
bottom line they could not be launched

2197
01:35:48,279 --> 01:35:45,169
for that 59 minutes I subsequently

2198
01:35:49,540 --> 01:35:48,289
contacted someone who has been mentioned

2199
01:35:53,259 --> 01:35:49,550
in my book who provided information

2200
01:35:55,029 --> 01:35:53,269
about his own UFO incidents in the 70s

2201
01:35:58,779 --> 01:35:55,039
at Ellsworth Air Force Base the same

2202
01:36:00,790 --> 01:35:58,789
individual had talked about well made

2203
01:36:02,290 --> 01:36:00,800
inquiries on my behalf of persons who

2204
01:36:04,989 --> 01:36:02,300
were active duty missile maintenance

2205
01:36:07,419 --> 01:36:04,999
personnel at FE Warren who told him

2206
01:36:10,989 --> 01:36:07,429
point-blank that the teams that went out

2207
01:36:14,649 --> 01:36:10,999
over a two day period October 23 24 2010

2208
01:36:17,049 --> 01:36:14,659
to try to ascertain the problem why this

2209
01:36:19,869 --> 01:36:17,059
communication snafu was going on and how

2210
01:36:21,669 --> 01:36:19,879
to repair it multiple teams came back to

2211
01:36:24,729 --> 01:36:21,679
the base and reported seeing a huge

2212
01:36:27,549 --> 01:36:24,739
silver colored dull metallic race over

2213
01:36:29,619 --> 01:36:27,559
coloureds cigar-shaped object high above

2214
01:36:31,540 --> 01:36:29,629
the missile field and several teams

2215
01:36:33,489 --> 01:36:31,550
independently came back and reported it

2216
01:36:36,429 --> 01:36:33,499
they said it did not have fins or a

2217
01:36:38,020 --> 01:36:36,439
passenger gondola and no advertising on

2218
01:36:40,750 --> 01:36:38,030
its side it was not the Goodyear blimp

2219
01:36:43,750 --> 01:36:40,760
it was clearly a huge cigar shaped

2220
01:36:46,629 --> 01:36:43,760
object these persons also told my

2221
01:36:49,659 --> 01:36:46,639
retired missile targeting contact that

2222
01:36:52,779 --> 01:36:49,669
the missile maintenance commander held a

2223
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:52,789
squadron wide meeting and admonished the

2224
01:36:57,549 --> 01:36:55,489
members assembled there not to talk to

2225
01:37:00,189 --> 01:36:57,559
anyone about what they had well quote

2226
01:37:02,049 --> 01:37:00,199
the quote was the things they may or may

2227
01:37:04,689 --> 01:37:02,059
not have seen in the sky quote unquote

2228
01:37:07,390 --> 01:37:04,699
so quite clearly something more went on

2229
01:37:09,250 --> 01:37:07,400
than just a prosaic computer chip

2230
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:09,260
which is what the air force is

2231
01:37:14,230 --> 01:37:11,090
officially chalking that problem up to

2232
01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:14,240
so it's ongoing that's the last mass

2233
01:37:18,900 --> 01:37:16,480
what it seems to be a mass shutdown

2234
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:18,910
based on witness testimony

2235
01:37:24,460 --> 01:37:21,890
eyewitness testimony the one in Montana

2236
01:37:25,870 --> 01:37:24,470
at Malmstrom this past fall in September

2237
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:25,880
2012

2238
01:37:31,570 --> 01:37:28,490
I interviewed probably a dozen locals

2239
01:37:33,850 --> 01:37:31,580
civilians at work in Roy Montana we told

2240
01:37:36,220 --> 01:37:33,860
me that shortly after UFOs were sighted

2241
01:37:39,190 --> 01:37:36,230
around the Oscar flight missiles in

2242
01:37:41,500 --> 01:37:39,200
September of last year that suddenly

2243
01:37:44,260 --> 01:37:41,510
there was a huge increase in the number

2244
01:37:46,570 --> 01:37:44,270
of missile maintenance fans in the area

2245
01:37:48,700 --> 01:37:46,580
around the town the town is literally

2246
01:37:51,070 --> 01:37:48,710
surrounded by missile sites and also a

2247
01:37:54,430 --> 01:37:51,080
dramatic increase in Air Force security

2248
01:37:56,410 --> 01:37:54,440
police patrols so coincidentally or not

2249
01:37:58,720 --> 01:37:56,420
at the same time the civilians were

2250
01:38:00,880 --> 01:37:58,730
reporting to the sheriff's office that

2251
01:38:03,220 --> 01:38:00,890
they were seeing UFOs near missile sites

2252
01:38:05,020 --> 01:38:03,230
suddenly according to several people in

2253
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:05,030
Roy Montana there was a dramatic

2254
01:38:08,050 --> 01:38:07,250
increase in Air Force activity at those

2255
01:38:12,580 --> 01:38:08,060
missile sites

2256
01:38:16,180 --> 01:38:12,590
Robert if you can confirm that the power

2257
01:38:18,910 --> 01:38:16,190
supply and the electronics for each of

2258
01:38:21,790 --> 01:38:18,920
these missiles if I believe is

2259
01:38:24,070 --> 01:38:21,800
completely independent so that if the

2260
01:38:26,950 --> 01:38:24,080
power fails in one it will not adversely

2261
01:38:29,860 --> 01:38:26,960
affect the others so myself and Chris

2262
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:29,870
were just making the point that for one

2263
01:38:34,540 --> 01:38:31,850
missile to go down that could go down

2264
01:38:36,820 --> 01:38:34,550
for a number of reasons but for two to

2265
01:38:39,490 --> 01:38:36,830
go down simultaneously you know the

2266
01:38:42,340 --> 01:38:39,500
chances of that are pretty low but for

2267
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:42,350
you know several to go down the odds

2268
01:38:48,460 --> 01:38:45,170
just quickly become astronomical and as

2269
01:38:51,790 --> 01:38:48,470
Kristen says to me regardless of the UFO

2270
01:38:54,940 --> 01:38:51,800
question just the fact of say 10

2271
01:38:58,870 --> 01:38:54,950
independ missiles going down all at once

2272
01:39:00,940 --> 01:38:58,880
even if they even if the engineers don't

2273
01:39:02,770 --> 01:39:00,950
believe a word of the UFO thing they

2274
01:39:05,350 --> 01:39:02,780
must be scratching their head thinking

2275
01:39:08,530 --> 01:39:05,360
this just cannot happen mathematically

2276
01:39:11,110 --> 01:39:08,540
it's so unlikely what can you say about

2277
01:39:14,230 --> 01:39:11,120
that Robert all of that is entirely

2278
01:39:15,940 --> 01:39:14,240
accurate and the missile maintenance

2279
01:39:18,700 --> 01:39:15,950
people that I've talked to the launch

2280
01:39:21,109 --> 01:39:18,710
officers the targeting people have all

2281
01:39:23,299 --> 01:39:21,119
said just that the odds of 10 missiles

2282
01:39:27,529 --> 01:39:23,309
going down at once is is unheard of I

2283
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:27,539
was on Larry King Live on July 18 2008

2284
01:39:32,869 --> 01:39:31,050
with Robert Jamison and among other

2285
01:39:35,330 --> 01:39:32,879
people he was a missile targeting

2286
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:35,340
officer who responded to the Oscar

2287
01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:37,110
flight shut down which we now know it

2288
01:39:42,919 --> 01:39:40,320
took place on March 24th 1967 that was

2289
01:39:44,929 --> 01:39:42,929
Bob Salas his flight of missiles Bob

2290
01:39:47,330 --> 01:39:44,939
Jamison said point-blank on Larry King

2291
01:39:49,909 --> 01:39:47,340
they were told that UFOs had shut down

2292
01:39:51,919 --> 01:39:49,919
the missiles and given instructions on

2293
01:39:53,089 --> 01:39:51,929
what to do if they'd sighted a UFO out

2294
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:53,099
while they were out in the field

2295
01:39:58,339 --> 01:39:56,489
bringing them back online he says right

2296
01:40:01,339 --> 01:39:58,349
on Larry King I believe the odds you

2297
01:40:04,310 --> 01:40:01,349
know he walked into the control room job

2298
01:40:06,589 --> 01:40:04,320
control room and saw all 10 missiles lit

2299
01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:06,599
up red at Oscar flight all the other

2300
01:40:10,819 --> 01:40:09,119
missiles flights were bright green so

2301
01:40:13,069 --> 01:40:10,829
clearly all 10 missiles had gone down

2302
01:40:15,770 --> 01:40:13,079
and he said the odds of that happening

2303
01:40:18,759 --> 01:40:15,780
are just you know astronomically against

2304
01:40:22,779 --> 01:40:18,769
it further regarding the earlier

2305
01:40:25,639 --> 01:40:22,789
incident at Echo flight on March 16 1967

2306
01:40:27,379 --> 01:40:25,649
the Boeing engineer Boeing is a chief

2307
01:40:30,290 --> 01:40:27,389
contractor for the Minuteman missile

2308
01:40:32,419 --> 01:40:30,300
system the Boeing engineer in charge of

2309
01:40:34,759 --> 01:40:32,429
the team sent to investigate why the

2310
01:40:37,639 --> 01:40:34,769
echo flight went down 10 and missiles at

2311
01:40:39,379 --> 01:40:37,649
once a man named Robert Kaminski wrote a

2312
01:40:42,679 --> 01:40:39,389
letter to a researcher named Jim Klotz

2313
01:40:45,500 --> 01:40:42,689
in 1997 it's posted on my web site in

2314
01:40:48,199 --> 01:40:45,510
which he said to Klotz that they found

2315
01:40:50,899 --> 01:40:48,209
no prosaic cause for the loss of these

2316
01:40:53,869 --> 01:40:50,909
10 missiles he said this is convinced

2317
01:40:56,089 --> 01:40:53,879
he's saying to Klotz he said that the

2318
01:40:58,850 --> 01:40:56,099
Air Force came in and said shut down

2319
01:41:00,529 --> 01:40:58,860
your investigation he said that was

2320
01:41:04,129 --> 01:41:00,539
unprecedented it never occurred before

2321
01:41:06,619 --> 01:41:04,139
or after and he said further that his

2322
01:41:10,009 --> 01:41:06,629
liaison personnel owing Air Force

2323
01:41:13,009 --> 01:41:10,019
liaisons told him that there were

2324
01:41:15,109 --> 01:41:13,019
reports of UFO activity at the site when

2325
01:41:17,209 --> 01:41:15,119
the missiles went down and all of this

2326
01:41:19,699 --> 01:41:17,219
again comes from the man who headed the

2327
01:41:22,339 --> 01:41:19,709
engineering team at the Air Force test

2328
01:41:24,979 --> 01:41:22,349
and Boeing tasked with investigating the

2329
01:41:27,589 --> 01:41:24,989
incident so it took many years for him

2330
01:41:29,299 --> 01:41:27,599
to come clean about that maybe no one

2331
01:41:31,759 --> 01:41:29,309
asked him but he certainly went on the

2332
01:41:34,009 --> 01:41:31,769
record in 1997 that this was a UFO

2333
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:34,019
related shutdown Chris we got a lots

2334
01:41:38,480 --> 01:41:34,770
more questions

2335
01:41:42,430 --> 01:41:38,490
oh boy do we and this next one comes

2336
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:42,440
from probably the most creative of our

2337
01:41:47,480 --> 01:41:45,330
posters here at forum dr. Perik cast

2338
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:47,490
calm creative in terms of his name he

2339
01:41:52,700 --> 01:41:51,210
calls himself Yeti turds for sale not

2340
01:41:56,450 --> 01:41:52,710
sure what to make of that Robert but

2341
01:41:58,850 --> 01:41:56,460
moving right along he has a number of

2342
01:42:01,040 --> 01:41:58,860
interesting questions which I'm going to

2343
01:42:03,740 --> 01:42:01,050
ask through the remainder of our talk

2344
01:42:05,930 --> 01:42:03,750
with you but how many cases are you

2345
01:42:08,210 --> 01:42:05,940
aware of in which the witnesses involved

2346
01:42:10,370 --> 01:42:08,220
were physically affected in any manner

2347
01:42:12,500 --> 01:42:10,380
he says sir I'm thinking of the cases

2348
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:12,510
where experiencers displayed symptoms of

2349
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:14,850
radiation poisoning in the case where

2350
01:42:18,290 --> 01:42:16,530
the guy had a burn mark on his body that

2351
01:42:19,310 --> 01:42:18,300
was allegedly the pattern of some sort

2352
01:42:21,740 --> 01:42:19,320
of exhaust girl

2353
01:42:25,330 --> 01:42:21,750
are you aware Robert of any cases where

2354
01:42:28,820 --> 01:42:25,340
missile ears security personnel or

2355
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:28,830
others who may be at the site in the

2356
01:42:32,660 --> 01:42:30,480
wrong place at the right time have been

2357
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:32,670
physically affected by some sort of

2358
01:42:39,820 --> 01:42:37,410
flyover or interaction with the magnetic

2359
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:39,830
field or whatever that these objects

2360
01:42:45,170 --> 01:42:43,170
allegedly produce well I'm racking my

2361
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:45,180
brain you know I've been interviewing

2362
01:42:51,740 --> 01:42:49,170
people 73 the book that came out in 2008

2363
01:42:53,870 --> 01:42:51,750
had interviews with about 90 of them I

2364
01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:53,880
can't don't off the top of my head

2365
01:42:58,880 --> 01:42:55,920
recall anything like that on the other

2366
01:43:01,490 --> 01:42:58,890
hand there are two instances that have

2367
01:43:03,830 --> 01:43:01,500
been reported one at Mount Hermon 67 at

2368
01:43:06,950 --> 01:43:03,840
Echo flight the other one at Ellsworth

2369
01:43:08,630 --> 01:43:06,960
Air Force Base in 78 where the people

2370
01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:08,640
involved both of them were targeting

2371
01:43:12,710 --> 01:43:10,800
technicians trying to bring the missiles

2372
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:12,720
up in terms of reprogramming the

2373
01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:14,610
targeting information in the guidance

2374
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:19,110
systems in the case of Nostrum Bob Salas

2375
01:43:25,490 --> 01:43:21,570
had a lengthy conversation with someone

2376
01:43:27,350 --> 01:43:25,500
he calls mr. X this person said that he

2377
01:43:29,180 --> 01:43:27,360
is not to be identified until his death

2378
01:43:31,220 --> 01:43:29,190
and therefore even though I've worked

2379
01:43:33,170 --> 01:43:31,230
with Bob Salas and we hosted this press

2380
01:43:37,610 --> 01:43:33,180
conference together I still do not know

2381
01:43:39,440 --> 01:43:37,620
the identity of mr. X but Bob did check

2382
01:43:42,260 --> 01:43:39,450
out his credentials he was a target or

2383
01:43:45,410 --> 01:43:42,270
Ostrom he was involved by all accounts

2384
01:43:48,180 --> 01:43:45,420
in this HECO flight bring up bringing it

2385
01:43:50,610 --> 01:43:48,190
back up what he said was he

2386
01:43:53,370 --> 01:43:50,620
Bob solace was he was down doing his

2387
01:43:55,260 --> 01:43:53,380
targeting work the guard topside at

2388
01:43:57,450 --> 01:43:55,270
ground level starts screaming for him to

2389
01:43:59,370 --> 01:43:57,460
come up and eventually he goes up to the

2390
01:44:02,160 --> 01:43:59,380
ground level he's down in the missile

2391
01:44:04,500 --> 01:44:02,170
silo of the underground silo and both of

2392
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:04,510
them see this glowing orange object sort

2393
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:06,970
of disc-shaped hovering quote not far

2394
01:44:11,970 --> 01:44:09,850
out that seemed to be sending out like

2395
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:11,980
waves of energy almost you could feel on

2396
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:13,930
your body they could feel on their body

2397
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:16,570
like it was what he called low frequency

2398
01:44:22,050 --> 01:44:18,370
waves I believe the term was used

2399
01:44:23,700 --> 01:44:22,060
oddly very strangely he did not feel

2400
01:44:24,780 --> 01:44:23,710
frightened by it even though the guard

2401
01:44:27,150 --> 01:44:24,790
was freaking out

2402
01:44:30,060 --> 01:44:27,160
and he just went back down into the cut

2403
01:44:32,430 --> 01:44:30,070
into the silo and continued his work and

2404
01:44:34,650 --> 01:44:32,440
he said he told Bob Salas that when he

2405
01:44:37,140 --> 01:44:34,660
got to a certain point something called

2406
01:44:39,060 --> 01:44:37,150
the alignment of the collimator in the

2407
01:44:41,130 --> 01:44:39,070
process of restarting the missile

2408
01:44:43,770 --> 01:44:41,140
everything would crap out and this

2409
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:43,780
happened repeatedly and he said he had a

2410
01:44:48,300 --> 01:44:45,610
very strong sense whether it was

2411
01:44:51,870 --> 01:44:48,310
telepathic or a hunch or who knows what

2412
01:44:54,660 --> 01:44:51,880
that they in the UFO were causing this

2413
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:54,670
they were aware of the procedure in

2414
01:44:58,650 --> 01:44:56,110
bringing up the missile they knew where

2415
01:45:00,480 --> 01:44:58,660
he was in the startup procedure and they

2416
01:45:02,190 --> 01:45:00,490
chose repeatedly at that point to

2417
01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:02,200
indicate that they could shut down with

2418
01:45:07,230 --> 01:45:05,440
the restart process that was this

2419
01:45:09,150 --> 01:45:07,240
gentleman suitor predation on the event

2420
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01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:52,150
Makai joining us as guest panelists we

2506
01:48:57,060 --> 01:48:54,370
have Robert Hastings he is author of

2507
01:49:00,240 --> 01:48:57,070
UFOs and nukes and his answers to the

2508
01:49:01,710 --> 01:49:00,250
many questions are lengthy and before we

2509
01:49:03,540 --> 01:49:01,720
get on to more questions from our

2510
01:49:06,390 --> 01:49:03,550
question Bank and forum dot the power

2511
01:49:08,610 --> 01:49:06,400
cast comm Roberts you want to expand on

2512
01:49:10,740 --> 01:49:08,620
that response or move on I'll just

2513
01:49:12,630 --> 01:49:10,750
quickly say that the other incident that

2514
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:12,640
I alluded to a moment ago at Ellsworth

2515
01:49:18,660 --> 01:49:15,610
Air Force Base in 1978 the missile

2516
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:18,670
targeting technicians that a diamond

2517
01:49:23,700 --> 01:49:21,130
shaped UFO a four-sided UFO was hovering

2518
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:23,710
low over his site he felt these waves of

2519
01:49:29,630 --> 01:49:27,250
energy streaming down and again despite

2520
01:49:32,310 --> 01:49:29,640
this very horrific or frightening

2521
01:49:34,020 --> 01:49:32,320
spectacle he did not feel frightened and

2522
01:49:35,430 --> 01:49:34,030
he went back down and tried to retarget

2523
01:49:38,250 --> 01:49:35,440
than this little so you have virtually

2524
01:49:40,350 --> 01:49:38,260
identical accounts of what is very odd

2525
01:49:42,030 --> 01:49:40,360
behavior the guards are freaking out and

2526
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:42,040
yet the targeting techs are cool calm

2527
01:49:46,380 --> 01:49:44,560
and collected and trying to restart the

2528
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:46,390
missile where the UFO hovering low over

2529
01:49:52,980 --> 01:49:51,010
the sites so that's kind of bizarre well

2530
01:49:55,470 --> 01:49:52,990
I have a kind of a follow-up question to

2531
01:49:58,530 --> 01:49:55,480
that and this comes from my long

2532
01:50:02,190 --> 01:49:58,540
association now with race Stanford

2533
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:02,200
Raye by the way is real excited to tune

2534
01:50:08,910 --> 01:50:05,890
in to listen to the show he he gave you

2535
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:08,920
quite a compliment raised to put it

2536
01:50:11,970 --> 01:50:10,690
kindly as is quite the curmudgeon and

2537
01:50:14,490 --> 01:50:11,980
there's not many people in the field

2538
01:50:16,340 --> 01:50:14,500
that he feels has any sort of relevance

2539
01:50:18,690 --> 01:50:16,350
or credence and you're one of them and

2540
01:50:20,610 --> 01:50:18,700
he's very excited that you're gonna be

2541
01:50:24,030 --> 01:50:20,620
on the show and one of the things that

2542
01:50:25,890 --> 01:50:24,040
Rey has kind of hinted around about and

2543
01:50:28,980 --> 01:50:25,900
and told me to always be aware of this

2544
01:50:32,420 --> 01:50:28,990
is there's he calls it euphoria there is

2545
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:32,430
some sort of ability for the the human

2546
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:36,250
perception system whatever that might be

2547
01:50:42,450 --> 01:50:39,730
from psychic to physical that is

2548
01:50:45,390 --> 01:50:42,460
oftentimes made aware of the presence of

2549
01:50:47,700 --> 01:50:45,400
these objects prior to actually seeing

2550
01:50:50,220 --> 01:50:47,710
them or being alerted to their actual

2551
01:50:53,670 --> 01:50:50,230
presence and he says it's kind of a

2552
01:50:56,820 --> 01:50:53,680
euphoric sort of feeling that over kind

2553
01:50:58,620 --> 01:50:56,830
of overcomes you just before you

2554
01:51:00,480 --> 01:50:58,630
actually have some sort of experience

2555
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:00,490
and he thinks that maybe some sort of

2556
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:02,890
physiological response to these objects

2557
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:08,170
in all the 150 you've interviewed just

2558
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:10,210
dozens and dozens of people that have

2559
01:51:14,820 --> 01:51:13,090
had experiences like this have you ever

2560
01:51:16,710 --> 01:51:14,830
gotten a sense from any of them that

2561
01:51:19,350 --> 01:51:16,720
they had a premonition or some sort of

2562
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:19,360
feeling beforehand prior to being

2563
01:51:23,340 --> 01:51:20,770
alerted that there was something some

2564
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:23,350
sort of incursion I'm I am aware of

2565
01:51:27,420 --> 01:51:25,810
cases not involving the Missal ears the

2566
01:51:29,820 --> 01:51:27,430
Missal cases where people have reported

2567
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:29,830
that it's in the literature so I'm aware

2568
01:51:33,570 --> 01:51:30,370
of that

2569
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:33,580
I can't off the top of my head excuse me

2570
01:51:38,070 --> 01:51:36,130
think of any report from any of my

2571
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:38,080
sources all of these taped interviews

2572
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:40,930
where that was presented to me or this

2573
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:45,250
that claim was made but there was this

2574
01:51:50,310 --> 01:51:47,890
sense you know that that I mean there

2575
01:51:52,950 --> 01:51:50,320
this this inference of some sort of

2576
01:51:55,260 --> 01:51:52,960
telepathic communication or certainly

2577
01:51:58,290 --> 01:51:55,270
whoever was in the ufos had the ability

2578
01:52:00,210 --> 01:51:58,300
to influence the mental processes of

2579
01:52:02,780 --> 01:52:00,220
these two technicians i just mentioned

2580
01:52:06,060 --> 01:52:02,790
and suppress their emotions like fear

2581
01:52:09,060 --> 01:52:06,070
that seemed to be quite clearly implied

2582
01:52:11,010 --> 01:52:09,070
by these two individuals I think if I'm

2583
01:52:12,419 --> 01:52:11,020
not mistaken Bob Salas and when he

2584
01:52:14,939 --> 01:52:12,429
speaks publicly about his

2585
01:52:16,529 --> 01:52:14,949
and Oscar said that when he was down

2586
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:16,539
there trying to bring up to ten missiles

2587
01:52:21,209 --> 01:52:18,610
and you know waking up his commander

2588
01:52:23,459 --> 01:52:21,219
Fred Maiwald and dealing with it at some

2589
01:52:26,219 --> 01:52:23,469
point Bob apparently had this sense all

2590
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:26,229
of a sudden that these were beings from

2591
01:52:28,859 --> 01:52:27,760
somewhere else and they were warning us

2592
01:52:31,379 --> 01:52:28,869
not to use nukes

2593
01:52:35,879 --> 01:52:31,389
now again how it's it's sort of

2594
01:52:37,979 --> 01:52:35,889
ephemeral it's sort of manat the right

2595
01:52:40,799 --> 01:52:37,989
word it's sort of unprovable whether

2596
01:52:43,290 --> 01:52:40,809
that was a real telepathic input in mr.

2597
01:52:45,540 --> 01:52:43,300
Salas his head or whether that was just

2598
01:52:49,229 --> 01:52:45,550
a hunch he had or who knows what

2599
01:52:52,500 --> 01:52:49,239
but the those reports to continue to

2600
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:52,510
occur I'll try to shorten my answers I

2601
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:54,489
do like to be very specific and detailed

2602
01:52:57,929 --> 01:52:56,650
and not just get off-the-cuff answers

2603
01:53:00,870 --> 01:52:57,939
but I know you've got lots of questions

2604
01:53:04,679 --> 01:53:00,880
so I'll try to be a little less wordy

2605
01:53:07,140 --> 01:53:04,689
here Robert this is dogs come in here

2606
01:53:11,370 --> 01:53:07,150
with a quick point and do you know of

2607
01:53:14,100 --> 01:53:11,380
any reports really of any associated

2608
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:14,110
high strangeness with any of these cases

2609
01:53:21,929 --> 01:53:16,449
I'm taking it you're familiar with the

2610
01:53:23,540 --> 01:53:21,939
term hi strange yes that was the

2611
01:53:26,069 --> 01:53:23,550
question yeah do you know of any

2612
01:53:29,969 --> 01:53:26,079
associated high strangeness with any of

2613
01:53:31,649 --> 01:53:29,979
these cases you there well two to two

2614
01:53:34,949 --> 01:53:31,659
things come to mind two things come to

2615
01:53:36,899 --> 01:53:34,959
mind well some cattle mutilations well

2616
01:53:38,729 --> 01:53:36,909
there you go you read my mind the first

2617
01:53:40,919 --> 01:53:38,739
thing that comes to mind are the reports

2618
01:53:42,979 --> 01:53:40,929
of mutilated cattle in both not only

2619
01:53:46,919 --> 01:53:42,989
monstrum but the fe war in missile field

2620
01:53:48,569 --> 01:53:46,929
in the 1970s in the fall of seventy five

2621
01:53:50,459 --> 01:53:48,579
there was something called the northern

2622
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:50,469
tier incursions that's how they then

2623
01:53:55,319 --> 01:53:53,650
referred to historically where there

2624
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:55,329
were a number of sacs Strategic Air

2625
01:53:59,549 --> 01:53:57,010
Command basis where UFOs were

2626
01:54:01,500 --> 01:53:59,559
interfering or police in near the

2627
01:54:04,379 --> 01:54:01,510
nuclear missiles at Malmstrom Air Force

2628
01:54:06,719 --> 01:54:04,389
Base Montana and then at two nuclear

2629
01:54:09,330 --> 01:54:06,729
bomber bases wordsmith in Michigan and

2630
01:54:11,250 --> 01:54:09,340
Laurine and Maine and in the case of

2631
01:54:13,739 --> 01:54:11,260
Montana during that same time frame

2632
01:54:16,949 --> 01:54:13,749
there were something like 80 cases I

2633
01:54:18,569 --> 01:54:16,959
believe of cattle mutilations within the

2634
01:54:22,799 --> 01:54:18,579
monster missile field and I've

2635
01:54:25,229 --> 01:54:22,809
interviewed both be the Cascade County

2636
01:54:26,190 --> 01:54:25,239
Sheriff Keith Wolverton who is involved

2637
01:54:29,810 --> 01:54:26,200
in this Widow

2638
01:54:32,250 --> 01:54:29,820
investigations and also the the former

2639
01:54:34,230 --> 01:54:32,260
commander of Thompson's helicopter

2640
01:54:36,750 --> 01:54:34,240
squadron retired lieutenant colonel

2641
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:36,760
Robert pusher and both of them confirmed

2642
01:54:40,950 --> 01:54:38,770
that the two of them had met together to

2643
01:54:42,330 --> 01:54:40,960
try to put their compare notes I guess

2644
01:54:44,340 --> 01:54:42,340
put their heads together and figure out

2645
01:54:46,500 --> 01:54:44,350
what was going on so there are these

2646
01:54:48,990 --> 01:54:46,510
mutilations associated with some of the

2647
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:49,000
UFO incursions at missile sites the

2648
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:50,770
other thing that comes to mind is I have

2649
01:54:55,740 --> 01:54:52,810
two independent reports from missile

2650
01:54:57,960 --> 01:54:55,750
security guards I'd have to look at my

2651
01:54:59,610 --> 01:54:57,970
notes to remember which bases were

2652
01:55:02,280 --> 01:54:59,620
involved one was monstrum I don't

2653
01:55:03,780 --> 01:55:02,290
remember the other where they were out

2654
01:55:05,700 --> 01:55:03,790
of the missile site there was a lot of

2655
01:55:08,130 --> 01:55:05,710
tripped alarm there was the inference of

2656
01:55:09,750 --> 01:55:08,140
a UFO presence but they didn't see UFOs

2657
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:09,760
but they were on their way back to the

2658
01:55:13,650 --> 01:55:11,920
base and it took them a lot longer to

2659
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:13,660
get back to base and it should have and

2660
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:16,090
they were out of radio contact so there

2661
01:55:20,490 --> 01:55:18,610
was this inference of missing time

2662
01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:20,500
perhaps a close encounter like an

2663
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:22,960
abduction experience that these two

2664
01:55:26,730 --> 01:55:25,570
former missile cops sky cops muscle

2665
01:55:30,030 --> 01:55:26,740
security police told me about

2666
01:55:31,980 --> 01:55:30,040
independently so I would certainly

2667
01:55:32,610 --> 01:55:31,990
consider that a high incidence of hi

2668
01:55:35,340 --> 01:55:32,620
stranger

2669
01:55:38,130 --> 01:55:35,350
we've also had security personnel

2670
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:38,140
vehicles shut down inexplicably and then

2671
01:55:44,340 --> 01:55:40,330
power back up that that should probably

2672
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:44,350
be that's correct noted as well you know

2673
01:55:49,380 --> 01:55:46,090
I I really hate to get into this and

2674
01:55:51,870 --> 01:55:49,390
give it any sort of attention but it I

2675
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:51,880
think it's important to to look at some

2676
01:55:56,460 --> 01:55:54,370
of the pushback and blowback pertaining

2677
01:55:59,520 --> 01:55:56,470
to your work and that is this James

2678
01:56:02,550 --> 01:55:59,530
Carlson character and and his dad Eric I

2679
01:56:05,730 --> 01:56:02,560
do have a couple of questions relating

2680
01:56:08,220 --> 01:56:05,740
to that on at the perform dr. Perik

2681
01:56:10,710 --> 01:56:08,230
asked on but I would like to just get a

2682
01:56:15,090 --> 01:56:10,720
sense from you first of all maybe give a

2683
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:15,100
just a quick overview of James Carlson

2684
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:16,210
sort of Vendetta

2685
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I mean I for the life of me I don't know

2686
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you know what what the motivation is

2687
01:56:28,110 --> 01:56:24,400
here but perhaps you might address James

2688
01:56:30,260 --> 01:56:28,120
and his dad Eric's problems with your

2689
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:30,270
with your work and and

2690
01:56:35,060 --> 01:56:32,850
and give us a sense possibly what the

2691
01:56:37,820 --> 01:56:35,070
motivation could be because your work is

2692
01:56:40,340 --> 01:56:37,830
so well documented that it's it's really

2693
01:56:41,900 --> 01:56:40,350
difficult to to talk about the one or

2694
01:56:43,970 --> 01:56:41,910
two people that have come out and said

2695
01:56:46,070 --> 01:56:43,980
well this is all a bunch of BS and blah

2696
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blah blah why don't you give us your

2697
01:56:49,670 --> 01:56:47,880
thinking about James Carlson and I'll

2698
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:49,680
tell you before we do that we're going

2699
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to have a break in a moment and I'd

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rather give Robert a full segment to

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respond to this it's a very complicated

2702
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issue as do any of these things end up

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or turn out to be listeners on our next

2704
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episode of the power cast we will

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feature author and investigative

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reporter Leslie Cain and also Robert

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halt who as you have just heard was a

2708
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key figure in the Rendlesham UFO case

2709
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questions open and the question Bank at

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forum dr. power cast calm if you really

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want to participate but today we're

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talking to Robert Hastings he's author

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stocks and bonds it makes me wonder if

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have a comment or question about the

2812
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para cast comm so Robert Hastings

2817
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joining us with Jean Chris and gags

2818
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before we broke Robert you were asked a

2819
02:02:11,680 --> 02:02:09,380
question about someone who doesn't like

2820
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:11,690
you very much and has been sharply

2821
02:02:15,459 --> 02:02:14,090
critical of your work so maybe you can

2822
02:02:18,070 --> 02:02:15,469
give our listeners a background and a

2823
02:02:20,890 --> 02:02:18,080
response what is now known either

2824
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:20,900
through witness testimony or and/or

2825
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:23,090
documents is that there were two full

2826
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:25,130
flight what apparently were full flight

2827
02:02:29,919 --> 02:02:27,650
10 missiles each shut down incidents at

2828
02:02:33,910 --> 02:02:29,929
Malmstrom Air Force Base the incident at

2829
02:02:36,280 --> 02:02:33,920
Echo flight was on March 16th 67 the

2830
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:36,290
oscar flight I now have established was

2831
02:02:40,660 --> 02:02:38,690
eight days later three of the four in

2832
02:02:42,070 --> 02:02:40,670
each case in each launch capsule you

2833
02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:42,080
have two missile launch officers

2834
02:02:45,910 --> 02:02:43,130
controlling missiles

2835
02:02:46,959 --> 02:02:45,920
so in combine the two cases you have

2836
02:02:48,820 --> 02:02:46,969
four missile launch

2837
02:02:51,490 --> 02:02:48,830
officers three of the four have

2838
02:02:54,399 --> 02:02:51,500
confirmed a UFO presence I have them on

2839
02:02:56,530 --> 02:02:54,409
tape pop Salas has them on tape some of

2840
02:02:58,600 --> 02:02:56,540
those tapes are at my web site the one

2841
02:03:00,669 --> 02:02:58,610
holdout officer who won't admit that

2842
02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:00,679
there was any UFO involvement is James

2843
02:03:04,780 --> 02:03:03,170
Carlson's father Eric who was the

2844
02:03:07,930 --> 02:03:04,790
commander at the Echo flight site

2845
02:03:09,820 --> 02:03:07,940
despite taped conversations three hours

2846
02:03:11,919 --> 02:03:09,830
worth at my web site where the deputy

2847
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:11,929
commander now retired colonel walter

2848
02:03:16,570 --> 02:03:14,210
Fiegel confirms that he did indeed

2849
02:03:19,860 --> 02:03:16,580
despite what James Carlson claims to the

2850
02:03:22,720 --> 02:03:19,870
contrary Fiegel did receive a telephone

2851
02:03:25,149 --> 02:03:22,730
call from a guard out at one of the echo

2852
02:03:27,399 --> 02:03:25,159
sites in which he described a round

2853
02:03:27,790 --> 02:03:27,409
object hovering directly over one of the

2854
02:03:30,669 --> 02:03:27,800
sites

2855
02:03:32,560 --> 02:03:30,679
James has continually misrepresented

2856
02:03:34,750 --> 02:03:32,570
that conversation he's gone so far as to

2857
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:34,760
say that I've doctored the tapes I'm

2858
02:03:40,450 --> 02:03:37,370
offering you know any audio expert

2859
02:03:42,790 --> 02:03:40,460
access to the tapes and if there's any

2860
02:03:44,770 --> 02:03:42,800
evidence of fraud those person can find

2861
02:03:47,379 --> 02:03:44,780
it these people have to be you know

2862
02:03:49,030 --> 02:03:47,389
credible audio experts on that's just

2863
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:49,040
not going to make this data available to

2864
02:03:53,770 --> 02:03:51,170
Joe Blow in any case

2865
02:03:54,510 --> 02:03:53,780
Colonel Fiegel has called James Carlson

2866
02:03:57,930 --> 02:03:54,520
state

2867
02:04:00,150 --> 02:03:57,940
and quote off-base he's also said that

2868
02:04:03,030 --> 02:04:00,160
James Carlton has quote an axe to grind

2869
02:04:04,950 --> 02:04:03,040
all that's on tape you one can listen to

2870
02:04:07,650 --> 02:04:04,960
it at my website in these conversations

2871
02:04:10,830 --> 02:04:07,660
with with that I had with Colonel Fiegel

2872
02:04:13,110 --> 02:04:10,840
and Oh 8 oh nine and 2010 what is known

2873
02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:13,120
about James Carlson is this he has been

2874
02:04:18,540 --> 02:04:16,210
diagnosed with epilepsy his naval career

2875
02:04:21,450 --> 02:04:18,550
was cut short because of that he was

2876
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:21,460
medically discharged I've done some

2877
02:04:25,980 --> 02:04:23,770
reading online in which it's found or is

2878
02:04:28,860 --> 02:04:25,990
discussed online in some cases persons

2879
02:04:30,930 --> 02:04:28,870
with epilepsy have reality detached

2880
02:04:32,790 --> 02:04:30,940
behavior they're not well grounded in

2881
02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:32,800
what we would all collectively call

2882
02:04:37,290 --> 02:04:35,110
reality another characteristics

2883
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:37,300
described what in some of the articles I

2884
02:04:42,420 --> 02:04:39,850
read online automatic behavior if you

2885
02:04:44,790 --> 02:04:42,430
look at James Carlson's 2,000 word blog

2886
02:04:47,340 --> 02:04:44,800
post with no breaks no paragraph breaks

2887
02:04:49,230 --> 02:04:47,350
just a wall of words just you know at

2888
02:04:49,770 --> 02:04:49,240
hundreds of sites over the last five

2889
02:04:52,260 --> 02:04:49,780
years

2890
02:04:55,860 --> 02:04:52,270
one could say that's manic behavior so I

2891
02:04:57,870 --> 02:04:55,870
don't know if James problems diagnose

2892
02:05:00,600 --> 02:04:57,880
problems self-admitted brain condition

2893
02:05:02,610 --> 02:05:00,610
epileptic related problems are the

2894
02:05:05,370 --> 02:05:02,620
origin for his inability of grapple with

2895
02:05:08,220 --> 02:05:05,380
the truth in facts or whether he's you

2896
02:05:10,050 --> 02:05:08,230
know just an unethical person because he

2897
02:05:12,300 --> 02:05:10,060
continually represents the witnesses

2898
02:05:14,250 --> 02:05:12,310
taped testimony I don't know what the

2899
02:05:17,250 --> 02:05:14,260
bottom line is all I know is that if one

2900
02:05:19,530 --> 02:05:17,260
looks at what he says reads what he says

2901
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:19,540
and then compares with what the

2902
02:05:23,910 --> 02:05:21,730
witnesses actually say on tape available

2903
02:05:26,130 --> 02:05:23,920
at my website you see it's day and night

2904
02:05:28,740 --> 02:05:26,140
and that Carlson misrepresents what the

2905
02:05:31,290 --> 02:05:28,750
eyewitnesses said tonight kind of sums

2906
02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:31,300
it up well I had no idea that James

2907
02:05:36,330 --> 02:05:34,090
Carlson had been discharged from the

2908
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:36,340
Navy because of medical conditions as

2909
02:05:42,930 --> 02:05:41,410
you described that Mego dog no blog that

2910
02:05:45,830 --> 02:05:42,940
goes a long way in my mind to maybe

2911
02:05:48,420 --> 02:05:45,840
describe what is clearly manic behavior

2912
02:05:50,790 --> 02:05:48,430
well moving right along you know

2913
02:05:52,760 --> 02:05:50,800
actually Robert S is quite a compliment

2914
02:05:55,620 --> 02:05:52,770
to your work that would be the only

2915
02:05:57,050 --> 02:05:55,630
detractor that I have ever even heard

2916
02:05:59,959 --> 02:05:57,060
about let alone

2917
02:06:03,640 --> 02:05:59,969
had any sort of information about and

2918
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:03,650
that in this field which is filled with

2919
02:06:10,250 --> 02:06:07,170
infighting and detractors that's to be

2920
02:06:12,830 --> 02:06:10,260
as teflon as you've been over the years

2921
02:06:14,570 --> 02:06:12,840
is quite a testament to your meticulous

2922
02:06:18,500 --> 02:06:14,580
documentation and I want to be the first

2923
02:06:19,850 --> 02:06:18,510
to congratulate you on such a fine job

2924
02:06:22,189 --> 02:06:19,860
that you've done over the years and

2925
02:06:24,860 --> 02:06:22,199
really dotting your eyes and crossing

2926
02:06:27,740 --> 02:06:24,870
your T's and if that's the only log jam

2927
02:06:29,810 --> 02:06:27,750
in the works you know I don't even think

2928
02:06:31,660 --> 02:06:29,820
it should be there but in a way moving

2929
02:06:34,700 --> 02:06:31,670
along another question we have here

2930
02:06:37,430 --> 02:06:34,710
before before we move along let me let

2931
02:06:39,380 --> 02:06:37,440
me interject one other point here first

2932
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:39,390
of all I consider myself merely the

2933
02:06:43,610 --> 02:06:41,610
messenger for these witnesses these

2934
02:06:47,330 --> 02:06:43,620
ex-military people are the people who

2935
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:47,340
deserve public praise I'm just driven to

2936
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:49,890
do what I do I can't explain why but I'm

2937
02:06:54,020 --> 02:06:52,050
trying to do as best a job as good a job

2938
02:06:55,910 --> 02:06:54,030
as possible but I'm just the messenger

2939
02:06:58,220 --> 02:06:55,920
for people who were involved in these

2940
02:07:00,500 --> 02:06:58,230
incidents now the other thing I'll

2941
02:07:03,260 --> 02:07:00,510
quickly say is Carlson you know is

2942
02:07:05,330 --> 02:07:03,270
unique in terms of the the nature of his

2943
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:05,340
criticisms and the complete

2944
02:07:09,169 --> 02:07:07,530
misrepresentation of taped audio

2945
02:07:11,900 --> 02:07:09,179
evidence and all that I mean he's

2946
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:11,910
totally out in left field but there are

2947
02:07:17,660 --> 02:07:14,010
debunkers there are skeptics and what I

2948
02:07:20,060 --> 02:07:17,670
would like to quickly say is the the

2949
02:07:22,729 --> 02:07:20,070
chief chief skeptic group used to be

2950
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:22,739
called psych cop it's now called CSI the

2951
02:07:28,459 --> 02:07:25,770
late Philip Glass was its leading UFO

2952
02:07:30,169 --> 02:07:28,469
debunker James Oberg is another one they

2953
02:07:32,780 --> 02:07:30,179
publish a magazine called skeptical

2954
02:07:35,689 --> 02:07:32,790
Inquirer the editor of that magazine is

2955
02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:35,699
Kendrick razor and some twenty-five

2956
02:07:39,709 --> 02:07:37,290
years ago when I went out on the lecture

2957
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circuit I you know shortly after and

2958
02:07:45,130 --> 02:07:42,179
went out I began investigating why this

2959
02:07:47,300 --> 02:07:45,140
group was so adamantly anti UFO and

2960
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:47,310
misrepresenting the fact and what I

2961
02:07:51,380 --> 02:07:49,890
found was this you know all my material

2962
02:07:53,150 --> 02:07:51,390
deals been to clear weapons related

2963
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cases what I found out pretty quickly

2964
02:07:57,740 --> 02:07:55,920
was the editor longtime editor of

2965
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skeptical Inquirer magazine Kendrick

2966
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Fraser worked for over 20 years as a

2967
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public relations specialist for Sandia

2968
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National Labs one of the leading nuclear

2969
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war labs in the US you can look high and

2970
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low and you won't find that in that

2971
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magazine

2972
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and yet that is a fact and I published

2973
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that that fact in my book James Oberg

2974
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who is a debunker of UFOs claims

2975
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publicly they don't exist

2976
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there's no cover-up when a man named Bob

2977
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Jacobs dr. Bob Jacob sleek information

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about the so-called Big Sur case the

2979
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appearance shoot down of a dummy nuclear

2980
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warhead by a UFO that was all captured

2981
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on film

2982
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according to Jacobs and another Air

2983
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Force officer named major Florence

2984
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Mannesmann James Oberg privately wrote

2985
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to Jacobs and chastised him for

2986
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releasing quote top-secret information

2987
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excuse me top-secret UFO data is the

2988
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exact phrase that appeared in Jacob in

2989
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Oberg letter to Jake Wow now apparently

2990
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you know so yeah quite quite at variance

2991
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to his public persona as a as a UFO

2992
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debunker apparently Oberg thought that

2993
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you know he would be intimidated Jacobs

2994
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would you know shrivel up and crawl back

2995
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into a hole or something Jim Jacobs

2996
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published portions of that letter and

2997
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just exposed though Burke's duplicity he

2998
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also was written to by Philip Glass who

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said quite intentionally I can provide

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references dr. Jacobs of my credibility

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is UFO researcher and he named as

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references

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Admiral Bobby Inman and general Daniel

3004
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Graham who has had various trials with

3005
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CIA and NSA over the years so again it

3006
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was quite clearly an effort to attempt

3007
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to intimidate dr. Jacobson to silence

3008
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after he broke the big sur UFO story

3009
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Jacobs again being Jay Bob Jacobs god

3010
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bless him he threw it back in her face

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and published classes letter where he

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was cited as references you know two of

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the top intelligence officers in the US

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government after decades of denying that

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he was a government agent so when you

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look behind the scenes if you kind of

3017
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lift the cover on this particular group

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of quote skeptics you find all this BS

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going on so quite clearly these guys are

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more than they appear to be more than

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they attempt to present themselves as oh

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we can't have too much of that we have

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Robert Hastings joining us he's author

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of UFOs and nukes there's so much more

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com just remember two words disaster

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and personal responsibility hello

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[Music]

3128
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it's just the wrong tire co-author of

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the UFO encyclopedia other books you're

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listening to the parent cap with gene

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and Chris and GOx final two segments of

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the para cast the book on your

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discussion is UFOs and nukes which you

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can get from Robert Hastings site wwu fo

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Hastings comm there's a link to it at

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our site at the para caste calm chris

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loads of questions in the question Bank

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would you proceed Robert this is a

3139
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really good question and it's one that

3140
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you know it makes a lot of sense I've

3141
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never actually thought about this but

3142
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perhaps you can shine some light on this

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particular subject this comes from our

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longtime poster Blowfish at forum dr.

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Peric ascom and it's the following

3146
02:15:39,660 --> 02:15:36,910
Robert how many accounts of military

3147
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aircraft have been seen or military

3148
02:15:45,830 --> 02:15:42,790
aircraft carrying nuclear weapons do we

3149
02:15:47,729 --> 02:15:45,840
have any sort of reports of UFO activity

3150
02:15:49,950 --> 02:15:47,739
interested in those flights

3151
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let me devote about 30 seconds to

3152
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following up on what Jean just said

3153
02:15:56,250 --> 02:15:54,070
about my book it is self-published it is

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available at my website UFO Hastings

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com4 2395 600 page book now scalpers buy

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it and resell it on Amazon for 85 bucks

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so if you have deep pockets go straight

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to Amazon if you want to be sensible

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about this

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go straight to my website and order the

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book your question related to UFO

3162
02:16:20,070 --> 02:16:17,500
activity near military aircraft carrying

3163
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nuclear weapons I am aware of a handful

3164
02:16:24,990 --> 02:16:21,820
of cases I'm sure there are great many

3165
02:16:28,860 --> 02:16:25,000
more however one of them that has come

3166
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to light was presented publicly by Barry

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Greenwood and Larry Fassett and their

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book clear intent it was really the

3169
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first book devoted to nuclear weapons

3170
02:16:41,850 --> 02:16:37,690
UFO activity it was published I believe

3171
02:16:45,299 --> 02:16:41,860
in 1981 anyway in clear intent they cite

3172
02:16:47,610 --> 02:16:45,309
Keith Wolverton the then sheriff of

3173
02:16:52,320 --> 02:16:47,620
Cascade County describing information

3174
02:16:53,970 --> 02:16:52,330
relating to a sighting of a b-52 coming

3175
02:16:55,709 --> 02:16:53,980
in on a bomb run there's a site

3176
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northwest of Great Falls called

3177
02:16:59,460 --> 02:16:58,540
freeze-out Lake where they do simulated

3178
02:17:02,100 --> 02:16:59,470
bomb runs

3179
02:17:04,590 --> 02:17:02,110
Jews come in low and open their Bombay

3180
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doors and all that and apparently a

3181
02:17:10,860 --> 02:17:06,940
fish-and-game employee saw one of these

3182
02:17:13,050 --> 02:17:10,870
maneuvers and a small glowing globular

3183
02:17:15,180 --> 02:17:13,060
shaped object a ball of light came and

3184
02:17:17,520 --> 02:17:15,190
suddenly attached itself to the aircraft

3185
02:17:21,150 --> 02:17:17,530
momentarily and then raced away and

3186
02:17:22,920 --> 02:17:21,160
according to Keith Wolverton contact see

3187
02:17:24,871 --> 02:17:22,930
a database said that the aircraft's

3188
02:17:27,090 --> 02:17:24,881
radar went haywire when this object

3189
02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:27,100
apparently attached itself to the bomber

3190
02:17:32,310 --> 02:17:30,160
I'm aware of a handful of other reports

3191
02:17:34,770 --> 02:17:32,320
I find it interesting the missile ears

3192
02:17:37,500 --> 02:17:34,780
the nuclear missile people talk to me

3193
02:17:41,610 --> 02:17:37,510
more often than not whereas the bomber

3194
02:17:42,750 --> 02:17:41,620
pilots or the b-52 crews just really

3195
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don't want to have anything to do with

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02:17:46,980 --> 02:17:44,950
me and I'm not sure why that is but

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they're very suspicious of my intentions

3198
02:17:51,930 --> 02:17:49,210
I get very few of them to open up about

3199
02:17:54,780 --> 02:17:51,940
incidents involving UFO activity you

3200
02:17:58,770 --> 02:17:54,790
know during b-52 sorties or whatever

3201
02:18:00,420 --> 02:17:58,780
there is recently and I'm trying to get

3202
02:18:02,670 --> 02:18:00,430
this person to go on the record there

3203
02:18:05,161 --> 02:18:02,680
was a report in MUFON about two years

3204
02:18:07,470 --> 02:18:05,171
ago from a man who was a security

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policeman a trainee Air Force Base in

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Puerto Rico during the Cuban Missile

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Crisis in October of 62

3208
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who said this disc shaped object and

3209
02:18:19,920 --> 02:18:17,530
sort of a cloud a plasma cloud appeared

3210
02:18:22,530 --> 02:18:19,930
over the base hovered over the b-52

3211
02:18:25,081 --> 02:18:22,540
alert area where the bloated bu no

3212
02:18:27,331 --> 02:18:25,091
nuclear weapons bombers were already

3213
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poised for takeoff hovered over the

3214
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alert area and then moved on to the u-2

3215
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:32,500
spy plane hangar before moving away now

3216
02:18:37,470 --> 02:18:35,410
I've done some cursory checking I think

3217
02:18:39,420 --> 02:18:37,480
that story's legitimate and so you would

3218
02:18:41,791 --> 02:18:39,430
have another case involving UFO activity

3219
02:18:43,890 --> 02:18:41,801
at a bomber base that's that's news to

3220
02:18:46,550 --> 02:18:43,900
me boy that's it very interesting

3221
02:18:49,980 --> 02:18:46,560
you know these Montana cases keep coming

3222
02:18:52,050 --> 02:18:49,990
coming back here and of course you know

3223
02:18:53,640 --> 02:18:52,060
I'm doing a book right now on the the

3224
02:18:56,130 --> 02:18:53,650
cattle mutilation phenomenon and

3225
02:18:58,530 --> 02:18:56,140
actually human humankind's relationship

3226
02:19:02,041 --> 02:18:58,540
with cattle and Montana does figure

3227
02:19:04,440 --> 02:19:02,051
prominently in this and you know thank

3228
02:19:06,750 --> 02:19:04,450
you very much for reminding me too to

3229
02:19:09,990 --> 02:19:06,760
really dig extra deep in some of these

3230
02:19:11,880 --> 02:19:10,000
these cases you really you really kind

3231
02:19:15,300 --> 02:19:11,890
of put a bee in my bonnet about this

3232
02:19:17,160 --> 02:19:15,310
you know I think having attendant

3233
02:19:20,010 --> 02:19:17,170
phenomenon like like cattle mutilation

3234
02:19:23,670 --> 02:19:20,020
cases or reports I should say more

3235
02:19:26,640 --> 02:19:23,680
accurately around Mount strim in in in

3236
02:19:29,670 --> 02:19:26,650
other bases where these these potential

3237
02:19:31,590 --> 02:19:29,680
incursions or you know whatever you want

3238
02:19:36,180 --> 02:19:31,600
to call them flyovers and manipulation

3239
02:19:38,940 --> 02:19:36,190
of electronic gear on missile sites I

3240
02:19:40,831 --> 02:19:38,950
mean it just makes you wonder about

3241
02:19:44,370 --> 02:19:40,841
agendas and there's a number of

3242
02:19:46,350 --> 02:19:44,380
questions on on the forum here about you

3243
02:19:48,961 --> 02:19:46,360
know what the possible agendas are and

3244
02:19:50,690 --> 02:19:48,971
one thing that's always struck me is if

3245
02:19:53,251 --> 02:19:50,700
we're dealing with something that's

3246
02:19:54,810 --> 02:19:53,261
extraterrestrial that's coming here and

3247
02:19:57,961 --> 02:19:54,820
sort of as you put a wagging their

3248
02:19:59,251 --> 02:19:57,971
finger at us you know that's one thing

3249
02:20:01,440 --> 02:19:59,261
but if we're dealing with something that

3250
02:20:04,410 --> 02:20:01,450
may have been here as long as we have I

3251
02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:04,420
would think that nuclear weapons and the

3252
02:20:09,331 --> 02:20:06,490
possibility of irradiating the planet

3253
02:20:10,530 --> 02:20:09,341
would put them in jeopardy as well what

3254
02:20:13,230 --> 02:20:10,540
are your thoughts about some other

3255
02:20:15,680 --> 02:20:13,240
tenant in the building possibly being

3256
02:20:18,030 --> 02:20:15,690
interested in these sites and showing up

3257
02:20:22,640 --> 02:20:18,040
what is your thinking on that I mean are

3258
02:20:26,011 --> 02:20:22,650
you an ETH guy you don't really kind of

3259
02:20:29,041 --> 02:20:26,021
mention you know extraterrestrials of

3260
02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:29,051
the word alien you're very conservative

3261
02:20:34,711 --> 02:20:32,080
I guess in how you language a lot of

3262
02:20:36,091 --> 02:20:34,721
these accounts and reports what are your

3263
02:20:41,251 --> 02:20:36,101
personal films do you think we're

3264
02:20:43,230 --> 02:20:41,261
dealing with some my personal opinion

3265
02:20:45,930 --> 02:20:43,240
based on having studied this for 40

3266
02:20:49,140 --> 02:20:45,940
years is that these are ETS beings from

3267
02:20:52,711 --> 02:20:49,150
other worlds there's anecdotal data I

3268
02:20:55,230 --> 02:20:52,721
confined to discussing sightings by law

3269
02:20:58,620 --> 02:20:55,240
enforcement personnel all over the world

3270
02:21:00,240 --> 02:20:58,630
since 1954 who are out on patrol come

3271
02:21:02,070 --> 02:21:00,250
around a bend in the road see a landed

3272
02:21:03,631 --> 02:21:02,080
craft with little beans walking around

3273
02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:03,641
it or beans of one description or

3274
02:21:07,560 --> 02:21:05,530
another and if one I mean there are

3275
02:21:09,720 --> 02:21:07,570
literally hundreds of cases of cops of

3276
02:21:11,310 --> 02:21:09,730
all descriptions in worldwide reporting

3277
02:21:14,370 --> 02:21:11,320
landed craft with little entities

3278
02:21:17,041 --> 02:21:14,380
walking around them if one considers you

3279
02:21:18,810 --> 02:21:17,051
know that those cases have merit as

3280
02:21:20,850 --> 02:21:18,820
opposed to being totally nonsensical

3281
02:21:22,921 --> 02:21:20,860
cops have everything to lose and nothing

3282
02:21:25,740 --> 02:21:22,931
to gain by reporting something like that

3283
02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:25,750
and yet it's continually reported

3284
02:21:31,230 --> 02:21:27,850
what is described from case to case the

3285
02:21:33,300 --> 02:21:31,240
case are a diversity of morphologies you

3286
02:21:35,100 --> 02:21:33,310
have seven football beings you have

3287
02:21:37,560 --> 02:21:35,110
three-foot-tall beings you have human

3288
02:21:40,530 --> 02:21:37,570
looking beans you have insect looking

3289
02:21:43,050 --> 02:21:40,540
beans so in my opinion we have multiple

3290
02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:43,060
races visiting this planet how they get

3291
02:21:48,450 --> 02:21:45,040
here you know what their overall plan is

3292
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:48,460
who the heck knows the other important

3293
02:21:52,410 --> 02:21:49,930
thing and I've got a whole chapter in my

3294
02:21:55,440 --> 02:21:52,420
book devoted to what's called higher

3295
02:21:58,610 --> 02:21:55,450
dimensional space hyperspace which is

3296
02:22:01,530 --> 02:21:58,620
now gained a great deal of acceptance in

3297
02:22:04,410 --> 02:22:01,540
physics professional physics circles

3298
02:22:07,020 --> 02:22:04,420
there are over a hundred peer-reviewed

3299
02:22:09,450 --> 02:22:07,030
papers in scientific journals at the

3300
02:22:12,030 --> 02:22:09,460
time my book came out in oh eight where

3301
02:22:14,100 --> 02:22:12,040
various services and mathematicians are

3302
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:14,110
discussing ways that faster than light

3303
02:22:18,750 --> 02:22:16,720
travel can be achieved whether it

3304
02:22:21,120 --> 02:22:18,760
involves folding space going through

3305
02:22:23,820 --> 02:22:21,130
wormholes whatever the ferries are for

3306
02:22:25,980 --> 02:22:23,830
the first time in human history you know

3307
02:22:27,690 --> 02:22:25,990
a hundred years into the Einstein era

3308
02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:27,700
where he said nothing can travel faster

3309
02:22:33,600 --> 02:22:30,250
than the speed of light over the last 20

3310
02:22:35,730 --> 02:22:33,610
years that supposedly unshakeable dictum

3311
02:22:38,250 --> 02:22:35,740
is now being challenged by professional

3312
02:22:39,900 --> 02:22:38,260
scientists and saying you know in their

3313
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:39,910
papers where they say yeah there are

3314
02:22:44,370 --> 02:22:41,770
ways that conceivably one could travel

3315
02:22:46,500 --> 02:22:44,380
faster than light so if we assume these

3316
02:22:48,030 --> 02:22:46,510
are ET visitors and one assumes that

3317
02:22:50,250 --> 02:22:48,040
some of them are more advanced than us

3318
02:22:52,290 --> 02:22:50,260
and figured out what we're just now

3319
02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:52,300
cutting our teeth on probably a hundred

3320
02:22:56,640 --> 02:22:54,130
years ago a thousand years ago a million

3321
02:22:59,130 --> 02:22:56,650
years ago you know if these are multiple

3322
02:23:01,260 --> 02:22:59,140
races they they may or may not interact

3323
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:01,270
with each other some of them may just be

3324
02:23:04,740 --> 02:23:03,130
slightly ahead of us let's say a hundred

3325
02:23:07,890 --> 02:23:04,750
years in technology some could be a

3326
02:23:09,150 --> 02:23:07,900
million years ahead of us so one has to

3327
02:23:11,810 --> 02:23:09,160
take all that into account

3328
02:23:14,430 --> 02:23:11,820
there are also intriguing reports of

3329
02:23:16,440 --> 02:23:14,440
hyperspace for example and other

3330
02:23:18,420 --> 02:23:16,450
theories allow for multiple parallel

3331
02:23:20,550 --> 02:23:18,430
dimensions other than our space-time

3332
02:23:22,560 --> 02:23:20,560
universe there are reports where

3333
02:23:24,830 --> 02:23:22,570
seemingly the sky opens up there's a

3334
02:23:27,510 --> 02:23:24,840
hole and then a craft emerges from it

3335
02:23:30,090 --> 02:23:27,520
suggesting almost like moving from one

3336
02:23:34,560 --> 02:23:30,100
dimension to another so in my view

3337
02:23:36,450 --> 02:23:34,570
that's what's going on you know it's who

3338
02:23:39,011 --> 02:23:36,460
knows when this is going to be proven

3339
02:23:41,291 --> 02:23:39,021
you know beyond any doubt for

3340
02:23:43,690 --> 02:23:41,301
or you know all humankind to accept the

3341
02:23:46,001 --> 02:23:43,700
fact that this is real and and here and

3342
02:23:48,850 --> 02:23:46,011
happening well I think that's my

3343
02:23:50,921 --> 02:23:48,860
assessment of it well I you know it

3344
02:23:53,621 --> 02:23:50,931
stated the way you've just stated it yes

3345
02:23:56,291 --> 02:23:53,631
I would agree that it does appear to be

3346
02:23:58,480 --> 02:23:56,301
something off planet however having you

3347
02:24:00,940 --> 02:23:58,490
know recently written a book about the

3348
02:24:03,161 --> 02:24:00,950
trickster ish nature of these sorts of

3349
02:24:06,280 --> 02:24:03,171
things and how appearances often are

3350
02:24:09,520 --> 02:24:06,290
deceiving I think there is a possibility

3351
02:24:11,230 --> 02:24:09,530
that we're being led to believe that we

3352
02:24:12,970 --> 02:24:11,240
are dealing with something off planet

3353
02:24:15,131 --> 02:24:12,980
I'll tell you what we are also led to

3354
02:24:17,310 --> 02:24:15,141
believe that we have benefactors who

3355
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want to talk about what they have to

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provide for us

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we have Robert Hastings joining us with

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02:29:03,950 --> 02:29:01,761
with Gene Kris and gongs on the power

3435
02:29:06,950 --> 02:29:03,960
cast where Robert Hastings author of UFO

3436
02:29:09,801 --> 02:29:06,960
and nukes let me remind you then that

3437
02:29:12,890 --> 02:29:09,811
the best place to buy Roberts book is at

3438
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his site we do have a link over at the

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3440
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the book this way the scalpers do not

3441
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profit this way all the money goes to

3442
02:29:25,430 --> 02:29:22,381
him and that's the way to do it in any

3443
02:29:27,621 --> 02:29:25,440
case Chris raised a particular point of

3444
02:29:29,660 --> 02:29:27,631
view about the UFO phenomenon and

3445
02:29:32,511 --> 02:29:29,670
possible causes Robert you want to get

3446
02:29:35,060 --> 02:29:32,521
into that I'm aware of what is called

3447
02:29:37,190 --> 02:29:35,070
the trickster phenomenon where there

3448
02:29:41,331 --> 02:29:37,200
seems to be some sort of deception going

3449
02:29:42,980 --> 02:29:41,341
on you know it has been reported in

3450
02:29:45,970 --> 02:29:42,990
cultures for example I've lived in the

3451
02:29:48,980 --> 02:29:45,980
southwest for the last 25 years and

3452
02:29:51,291 --> 02:29:48,990
where possible where it's it's it's

3453
02:29:53,390 --> 02:29:51,301
feasible for me to do it I engage in

3454
02:29:55,131 --> 02:29:53,400
discussions with Native Americans of one

3455
02:29:57,320 --> 02:29:55,141
tribe or another about their views on

3456
02:30:00,530 --> 02:29:57,330
all of this and they all have trickster

3457
02:30:02,631 --> 02:30:00,540
myths about entities doing things that

3458
02:30:04,131 --> 02:30:02,641
for humans into thinking one thing or

3459
02:30:07,461 --> 02:30:04,141
another I think that's what Chris is

3460
02:30:10,030 --> 02:30:07,471
alluding to some of these Indian tribes

3461
02:30:13,100 --> 02:30:10,040
I'll quickly say are there their

3462
02:30:17,240 --> 02:30:13,110
collective wisdom about you at what we

3463
02:30:19,070 --> 02:30:17,250
would call UFOs is held as a closely

3464
02:30:21,501 --> 02:30:19,080
guarded secret and they do not discuss

3465
02:30:24,110 --> 02:30:21,511
it with outsiders and these people I've

3466
02:30:26,810 --> 02:30:24,120
raised the issue with very politely tell

3467
02:30:28,881 --> 02:30:26,820
me just that other tribes in particular

3468
02:30:32,390 --> 02:30:28,891
the Navajo I've talked to another number

3469
02:30:34,551 --> 02:30:32,400
of Navajo people who say quite openly

3470
02:30:36,530 --> 02:30:34,561
yeah you know we know about UFOs you

3471
02:30:38,060 --> 02:30:36,540
know people of my grandfather's

3472
02:30:39,921 --> 02:30:38,070
generation think they're spiritual

3473
02:30:42,291 --> 02:30:39,931
beings but people in my generation you

3474
02:30:43,791 --> 02:30:42,301
know guys in his 30s or whatever I think

3475
02:30:46,511 --> 02:30:43,801
they're beings from other world and

3476
02:30:49,190 --> 02:30:46,521
there's really no hard-and-fast

3477
02:30:50,900 --> 02:30:49,200
prohibition to having either view within

3478
02:30:54,220 --> 02:30:50,910
the tribe as what I've been led to

3479
02:30:58,791 --> 02:30:54,230
believe so it's it's a multi-faceted

3480
02:31:01,610 --> 02:30:58,801
phenomenon and I've confined myself to

3481
02:31:03,890 --> 02:31:01,620
the nuts and bolts cases where you have

3482
02:31:06,081 --> 02:31:03,900
radar data hopefully you have multiple

3483
02:31:08,360 --> 02:31:06,091
eyewitnesses you have apparent physical

3484
02:31:11,570 --> 02:31:08,370
effects in terms of weapons being shut

3485
02:31:13,640 --> 02:31:11,580
down when these objects are present but

3486
02:31:16,520 --> 02:31:13,650
you know I'm aware and my personal

3487
02:31:18,500 --> 02:31:16,530
reading of the topic and communicating

3488
02:31:20,450 --> 02:31:18,510
with other human beings is this is a

3489
02:31:22,670 --> 02:31:20,460
very complex problem we're not going to

3490
02:31:26,860 --> 02:31:22,680
get to the bottom of what we call UFOs

3491
02:31:32,261 --> 02:31:26,870
are anytime soon yeah Roberts cogs here

3492
02:31:37,910 --> 02:31:32,271
is your research in nukes and UFOs

3493
02:31:41,720 --> 02:31:37,920
ongoing and if or if not and is what

3494
02:31:46,730 --> 02:31:41,730
other areas to do you research regarding

3495
02:31:48,350 --> 02:31:46,740
UFOs it is ongoing this may or may not

3496
02:31:50,030 --> 02:31:48,360
be a good thing but when I get up in the

3497
02:31:53,210 --> 02:31:50,040
morning that's on my mind when I go to

3498
02:31:54,970 --> 02:31:53,220
bed it's on my mind and I think if I'm

3499
02:31:57,620 --> 02:31:54,980
going to make any meaningful

3500
02:31:59,900 --> 02:31:57,630
contribution to the collective knowledge

3501
02:32:02,810 --> 02:31:59,910
base I need to confine myself to this

3502
02:32:04,670 --> 02:32:02,820
particular subtopic I think it's

3503
02:32:06,410 --> 02:32:04,680
important obviously given the recent

3504
02:32:08,810 --> 02:32:06,420
history of humankind where we now have

3505
02:32:10,610 --> 02:32:08,820
weapons that can take us out and destroy

3506
02:32:12,380 --> 02:32:10,620
the environmental integrity of the

3507
02:32:15,920 --> 02:32:12,390
planet for a long time I think this is a

3508
02:32:18,530 --> 02:32:15,930
very significant aspect of why we have

3509
02:32:21,051 --> 02:32:18,540
UFO activity to the degree that we do in

3510
02:32:23,810 --> 02:32:21,061
the last seven years so I think that's

3511
02:32:25,910 --> 02:32:23,820
that's a large enough plateful right

3512
02:32:28,130 --> 02:32:25,920
there to deal with for any one person so

3513
02:32:31,910 --> 02:32:28,140
I devote my time to that it is ongoing

3514
02:32:33,801 --> 02:32:31,920
I'm 63 now I'm slowing down I can't sit

3515
02:32:35,960 --> 02:32:33,811
at the computer or make calls for 8

3516
02:32:38,570 --> 02:32:35,970
hours a day every day like I used to but

3517
02:32:42,110 --> 02:32:38,580
I'm still digging into it and it's it's

3518
02:32:45,290 --> 02:32:42,120
endlessly fascinating you know when I

3519
02:32:48,410 --> 02:32:45,300
post press releases when I'm on CNN or

3520
02:32:50,301 --> 02:32:48,420
do programs like this one I invariably

3521
02:32:52,670 --> 02:32:50,311
get contacted by people who are

3522
02:32:54,620 --> 02:32:52,680
ex-military every now and then I get

3523
02:32:56,720 --> 02:32:54,630
some jerk who's a liar and he's quite

3524
02:32:58,220 --> 02:32:56,730
quickly exposed as a liar but most of

3525
02:32:59,930 --> 02:32:58,230
those people are sincere and has

3526
02:33:03,770 --> 02:32:59,940
something to tell me and I encourage

3527
02:33:09,430 --> 02:33:03,780
them to contact me at UFO Hastings at

3528
02:33:11,870 --> 02:33:09,440
aol.com aol.com UFO Hastings at aol.com

3529
02:33:14,630 --> 02:33:11,880
very quickly if there's a veteran who

3530
02:33:17,690 --> 02:33:14,640
wants to talk to me I will say I'm going

3531
02:33:19,490 --> 02:33:17,700
to need your dd-214 to verify that you

3532
02:33:21,770 --> 02:33:19,500
were at the bases you said you were at

3533
02:33:23,960 --> 02:33:21,780
those timeframes when you describe your

3534
02:33:24,920 --> 02:33:23,970
UFO experiences to me but once we get

3535
02:33:26,360 --> 02:33:24,930
beyond that

3536
02:33:28,760 --> 02:33:26,370
I'm very interested in what you had to

3537
02:33:31,040 --> 02:33:28,770
say just before dogs comes in with

3538
02:33:32,300 --> 02:33:31,050
another comment are you contacted by

3539
02:33:36,139 --> 02:33:32,310
people who claim to have military

3540
02:33:39,290 --> 02:33:36,149
experience but don't rarely as I said a

3541
02:33:42,229 --> 02:33:39,300
moment ago yeah and there are people who

3542
02:33:43,969 --> 02:33:42,239
I can tell just right off I know within

3543
02:33:46,849 --> 02:33:43,979
30 seconds whether something not right

3544
02:33:49,189 --> 02:33:46,859
in the way they were there emails to me

3545
02:33:52,760 --> 02:33:49,199
or their present themselves and when I

3546
02:33:55,820 --> 02:33:52,770
push quickly they run away to bonafide

3547
02:33:58,460 --> 02:33:55,830
sources pursue contacts with me they're

3548
02:34:00,349 --> 02:33:58,470
very understated as a general rule if

3549
02:34:03,019 --> 02:34:00,359
someone calls me and says I know what

3550
02:34:05,830 --> 02:34:03,029
the CIA talks to the NSA and the White

3551
02:34:08,420 --> 02:34:05,840
House about blah blah blah when someone

3552
02:34:11,090 --> 02:34:08,430
contacts being has grandiose claims

3553
02:34:13,610 --> 02:34:11,100
about having oversight knowledge of the

3554
02:34:16,219 --> 02:34:13,620
whole UFO government cover-up quite

3555
02:34:17,689 --> 02:34:16,229
clearly those people and don't know what

3556
02:34:20,479 --> 02:34:17,699
they're talking about are making that up

3557
02:34:23,030 --> 02:34:20,489
the situation is so compartmentalize

3558
02:34:24,439 --> 02:34:23,040
that if you're in on part of the secret

3559
02:34:26,090 --> 02:34:24,449
that's all you know you don't know the

3560
02:34:27,769 --> 02:34:26,100
overall picture so those people are

3561
02:34:30,679 --> 02:34:27,779
quite foolish if they think they can

3562
02:34:32,570 --> 02:34:30,689
mislead me with claims such as those the

3563
02:34:34,760 --> 02:34:32,580
people who turn out to be the legitimate

3564
02:34:37,340 --> 02:34:34,770
sources the one the ones that have ended

3565
02:34:39,469 --> 02:34:37,350
up in my book are very low-key they're

3566
02:34:41,330 --> 02:34:39,479
understated they don't make claims that

3567
02:34:43,939 --> 02:34:41,340
they can't prove they say this is what I

3568
02:34:46,099 --> 02:34:43,949
do know I don't know that they give very

3569
02:34:48,019 --> 02:34:46,109
specific details generally if not the

3570
02:34:49,429 --> 02:34:48,029
year of the case certainly who was

3571
02:34:51,500 --> 02:34:49,439
involved what missile slides were

3572
02:34:54,439 --> 02:34:51,510
involved and so on so it's pretty

3573
02:34:57,500 --> 02:34:54,449
quickly clear to me who is worth

3574
02:35:00,050 --> 02:34:57,510
pursuing in terms of a potential lead as

3575
02:35:02,300 --> 02:35:00,060
opposed to who is just somebody trying

3576
02:35:04,729 --> 02:35:02,310
to pull a fast one on me Robert it's

3577
02:35:06,559 --> 02:35:04,739
quite timely there you gave your contact

3578
02:35:09,170 --> 02:35:06,569
details there the question I was going

3579
02:35:12,800 --> 02:35:09,180
to ask is how much of your research is

3580
02:35:14,870 --> 02:35:12,810
active and how much is passive as in how

3581
02:35:17,990 --> 02:35:14,880
much do you have to go out looking for

3582
02:35:20,300 --> 02:35:18,000
stuff and how much does stuff come and

3583
02:35:23,300 --> 02:35:20,310
find you you know because people know

3584
02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:23,310
what you're into I don't know that I

3585
02:35:29,780 --> 02:35:27,290
could quantify that it's a little both I

3586
02:35:31,790 --> 02:35:29,790
for example had just read something

3587
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:31,800
online about citing the Montana last

3588
02:35:36,439 --> 02:35:33,930
fall I was speaking at the University of

3589
02:35:38,150 --> 02:35:36,449
Montana in October and so I drove a

3590
02:35:38,870 --> 02:35:38,160
couple hundred miles up to the areas

3591
02:35:42,170 --> 02:35:38,880
where

3592
02:35:44,030 --> 02:35:42,180
the full sites are and found this log in

3593
02:35:46,190 --> 02:35:44,040
the sheriff's blotter and subsequently

3594
02:35:48,200 --> 02:35:46,200
interviewed the witnesses so you know I

3595
02:35:49,910 --> 02:35:48,210
took an active hand because the

3596
02:35:51,920 --> 02:35:49,920
opportunity presented itself I don't

3597
02:35:56,059 --> 02:35:51,930
have the financial financial wherewithal

3598
02:35:57,980 --> 02:35:56,069
to fly all over the country pursuing one

3599
02:35:59,690 --> 02:35:57,990
liter or another but if I an opportunity

3600
02:36:03,320 --> 02:35:59,700
like that presents itself I'll certainly

3601
02:36:05,870 --> 02:36:03,330
pursue it but again as I mentioned

3602
02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:05,880
earlier in that case from last fall up

3603
02:36:10,639 --> 02:36:08,010
in Montana my witnesses are a civilian

3604
02:36:12,440 --> 02:36:10,649
personnel of civilian civilians living

3605
02:36:16,130 --> 02:36:12,450
in the area of law in Montana I don't

3606
02:36:18,410 --> 02:36:16,140
have military personnel coming forward

3607
02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:18,420
yet and I don't encourage active duty

3608
02:36:23,179 --> 02:36:20,250
Air Force personnel to approach me

3609
02:36:25,070 --> 02:36:23,189
because my emails are monitored my

3610
02:36:26,929 --> 02:36:25,080
phones tapped there's no question I mean

3611
02:36:28,880 --> 02:36:26,939
if the guys in Washington have any

3612
02:36:30,650 --> 02:36:28,890
brains they've kept a good eye on me for

3613
02:36:32,570 --> 02:36:30,660
the last thirty years there have been

3614
02:36:34,040 --> 02:36:32,580
some funny monkey business on the

3615
02:36:36,950 --> 02:36:34,050
telephone I could tell you about it this

3616
02:36:38,389 --> 02:36:36,960
time but and so I don't encourage active

3617
02:36:40,040 --> 02:36:38,399
duty people who approached me I'm very

3618
02:36:43,760 --> 02:36:40,050
curious to know what happened up there

3619
02:36:46,849 --> 02:36:43,770
at Oscar flight in September in October

3620
02:36:49,010 --> 02:36:46,859
of 2012 but it could be decades before

3621
02:36:52,010 --> 02:36:49,020
any of those guys come forward and I'll

3622
02:36:54,559 --> 02:36:52,020
be long gone so so how do you think here

3623
02:36:56,960 --> 02:36:54,569
people react with regards to this story

3624
02:36:59,450 --> 02:36:56,970
that and we mentioned in the beginning

3625
02:37:01,820 --> 02:36:59,460
of our show that the government went

3626
02:37:04,179 --> 02:37:01,830
after the AP for alleged leaks that

3627
02:37:06,950 --> 02:37:04,189
might relate to some kind of military

3628
02:37:09,020 --> 02:37:06,960
whistleblower I'm aware of the story I

3629
02:37:12,260 --> 02:37:09,030
just saw it on CNN earlier today I don't

3630
02:37:14,660 --> 02:37:12,270
know what say and it's nothing nothing

3631
02:37:17,030 --> 02:37:14,670
that's black or white I think there are

3632
02:37:20,059 --> 02:37:17,040
legitimate cases where any given

3633
02:37:21,740 --> 02:37:20,069
administration has to know for example a

3634
02:37:24,440 --> 02:37:21,750
terrorist related leak I don't have a

3635
02:37:26,660 --> 02:37:24,450
problem with them nosing into that on

3636
02:37:29,120 --> 02:37:26,670
the other hand the Constitution does

3637
02:37:31,490 --> 02:37:29,130
guarantee privacy and so those people

3638
02:37:34,340 --> 02:37:31,500
that argue such as myself we've had

3639
02:37:36,980 --> 02:37:34,350
problems with telephone issues and email

3640
02:37:39,110 --> 02:37:36,990
issues quite clearly someone monitoring

3641
02:37:40,490 --> 02:37:39,120
my activities you know constitutionally

3642
02:37:42,590 --> 02:37:40,500
there is a question whether anyone

3643
02:37:44,599 --> 02:37:42,600
should have the right to do that so it's

3644
02:37:47,630 --> 02:37:44,609
pushed back and forth you know what's

3645
02:37:48,260 --> 02:37:47,640
give-and-take and it's not cut and dried

3646
02:37:50,511 --> 02:37:48,270
by anything

3647
02:37:52,310 --> 02:37:50,521
Rober tell our listeners where they can

3648
02:37:56,871 --> 02:37:52,320
more information about what to do our

3649
02:37:59,511 --> 02:37:56,881
website is UFO Hastings dot-com on the

3650
02:38:01,761 --> 02:37:59,521
home page there is this CNN streaming of

3651
02:38:04,150 --> 02:38:01,771
my press conference you'll see seven Air

3652
02:38:06,171 --> 02:38:04,160
Force veterans talking about UFOs

3653
02:38:08,360 --> 02:38:06,181
monitoring and even tampering with

3654
02:38:10,430 --> 02:38:08,370
nuclear weapons if you go to my document

3655
02:38:13,461 --> 02:38:10,440
page you'll find a number of documents

3656
02:38:16,581 --> 02:38:13,471
corroborating UFO activity at nuclear

3657
02:38:18,680 --> 02:38:16,591
weapons sites since the 1940s onward

3658
02:38:20,871 --> 02:38:18,690
and if you go to my book page you can

3659
02:38:22,640 --> 02:38:20,881
order my book directly from my site

3660
02:38:25,371 --> 02:38:22,650
without having to pay exorbitant rates

3661
02:38:28,640 --> 02:38:25,381
at Amazon when scalpers try to resell it

3662
02:38:31,581 --> 02:38:28,650
ok you can find us at the para cast com

3663
02:38:34,551 --> 02:38:31,591
on Twitter we are the para cast we have

3664
02:38:38,600 --> 02:38:34,561
a para cast fan club over at Facebook

3665
02:38:40,551 --> 02:38:38,610
Chris site is our strange planet calm so

3666
02:38:43,041 --> 02:38:40,561
we've had God's Makai as our guest

3667
02:38:45,020 --> 02:38:43,051
panelists with Jean Steinberg and Chris

3668
02:38:46,820 --> 02:38:45,030
O'Brien Robert Hastings thanks for

3669
02:38:55,880 --> 02:38:46,830
joining us this week on the power cast

3670
02:39:02,280 --> 02:38:59,400
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

3671
02:39:05,300 --> 02:39:02,290
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

3672
02:39:09,210 --> 02:39:05,310
presentation of making the impossible